Darth Revan of the Sith Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Reincarnation has been a long standing belief for many centuries even I have memories of my past 8 lives... ( what those are I aint gonna tell ya hurr) Anyways discuss the belief in More than one life.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I defenitly belive that its possible. Although mabye I've been watching too much Avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianGuy1137 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Interesting, but instead of reincarnation, I'm thinking along the lines of something just as outlandish but introduced in the guise of science fiction. You know how in Assassin's Creed, all sentient creatures supposedly have some kind of innate ancestral history encoded in their genes? What if that was true, and reincarnation was, in a loose application, essentially just tapping into this pool of ancestral history and converging with your ancestor's past memories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Reincarnation is inherently pointless. Even if your soul does move on, all of your memories are gone, so it isn't even technically "You". Even having a base personality is impossible because the only thing that decides your base personality is your genetic makeup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I'm an atheist, so... Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='Dementuo' timestamp='1305176843' post='5204349'] I'm an atheist, so... Yeah. [/quote] To be fair, they aren't mutually exclusive. A lot of Buddhists believe in reincarnation, yet they're technically atheists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 It is an interesting idea, but like Zarkus said, it's pointless unless you keep your memories and personality. Although imagine if you did keep those yet were reincarnated as the opposite gender... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorrow. Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I want to believe in it because I would much rather be reborn and start a new life rather than thinking of spending eternity in Heaven. But I am a Catholic and in my teachings reincarnation is a foolish after thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I can believe some heaven or whatever exists if given the proof. Then again, reincarnation...it doesn't have a real supportive side, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Well I dont quite know how I got it but when I was meditating one day I got a serious migraine and decided to go to bed and then all these memories of people I did not know jumped into my head as if it was me... To this day I dont know how I got this to happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 [quote name='Nightmare Zarkus' timestamp='1305176702' post='5204345'] Reincarnation is inherently pointless. Even if your soul does move on, all of your memories are gone, so it isn't even technically "You". Even having a base personality is impossible because the only thing that decides your base personality is your genetic makeup. [/quote] You hit the nail on the head. "Souls" don't really exist, but reincarnation is terrible as you are an entirely different person. Hell, I could be a reincarnation of Jesus despite being terribly different from him. If reincarnation does exist, it's utterly pointless, to the point where one can confidently say it doesn't exist because one could make erroneous claims to be a reincarnation of everyone. After you die, you rot in the ground or scientists cut up your body and take your organs. Even if you are reborn, you can't prove that you are yourself, if you get what I'm saying. Also, anyone who claims to have memories of their past life(ves) better bring evidence or gtfo out. Again, I'm Jesus. Or his reincarnation, at the very least. Go nail me to a plus sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Wow, this topic got abrasive fast. It's not even about Christianity. Really, I think this is a topic that only really pertains to certain religions. If you don't believe in a soul, then yes, Reincarnation would be totally pointless (although one could make the argument that 'total person reset' is less disturbing than total existence cession). If you believe in an immortal soul, however, the definition of 'you' shifts from just being about your memories or base personality to actually being that soul- reincarnation now has a point, because it's the point of the individuals to enhance the soul in some way, rather than just being alive again for the sake of being alive. Personally, I don't believe in reincarnation for a myriad of reasons, but I don't think it's free of enough connotations to really argue against independently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 There is no proof for or against reincarnation because it's utterly pointless. You could literally claim to be a reincarnation of any deceased person (assuming they died before you were born), and it wouldn't matter. Who cares if I was a reincarnation of Albert Einstein? The main point is that I am not Albert Einstein. It's not like you have any relation to the person you are a reincarnation of, which makes reincarnation an entirely pointless belief. It's not necessarily incorrect, but it might as well be and not much would change. If someone believes in a soul for some odd reason, they could use the argument that reincarnation would like total your total sins and good deeds and like decide whether you go to heaven or something (I know Hinduism has an extensive belief on reincarnation), but that would require proving souls exist which, to say the least, is a tough task. [i]that 'total person reset' is less disturbing than total existence cession[/i] I don't find it any more comforting that I am reborn as someone else, because the two are really the same. You are ending your existence as Dark on YCM, and restarting your existence as Bob Flounders. Dark on YCM and Bob Flounders aren't related in the slightest, have opposite personalities, and different interests, so it's essentially as if Dark on YCM has gone through an existence cession and Bob Flounders started his existence. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 Unless reincarnation maintained inherent traits that were attributed to quantum reactions(seemingly random in nature). Eh, it seems kind of silly to me. Probably because it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 I hope all snobby atheists be reborn as a Paper Tree and Printed into Bibles. /DaneCook and Serious. But if there is at least, some proof of it it'll be interesting. Hell, as it is it's interesting. But complete croc as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raine Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Before I say anything about reincarnation. If it is true how do we have more people now then before? Hmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Why even bother? Just cut the bull away with Occam's razor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 I don't believe in it, but it would be pretty damn awesome if it was real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 [quote name='Raineâ„¢' timestamp='1307217404' post='5254536']Before I say anything about reincarnation. If it is true how do we have more people now then before? Hmm?[/quote] Well not to make you sound stupid or anything but just because there is reincarnation doesn't mean theres a set number of lives that can exists. This is simply because new lives can be created easier then old lives can die and as some would say reincarnate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raine Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 [quote name='♥ D.A._ϯɨå Håʀʀɨbel ♥' timestamp='1307477308' post='5264339'] Well not to make you sound stupid or anything but just because there is reincarnation doesn't mean theres a set number of lives that can exists. This is simple because new lives can be created easier then old lives can die and as some would say reincarnate. [/quote] When things like that begin appearing it starts to sound like people are making facts to suit theory instead of theories to suit facts. Just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirr Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Reincarnation is scientifically unsound because there's no such thing as souls as far as we can tell. Memories wouldn't be transferred, they exist in your brain and your brain loses all the information stored in it after you're dead because deprivation of necessary chemicals causes braincells to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 The idea that once a human being dies their memories are locked away and thrown into some new person is sort of outlandish to me. To go further, the idea that actions in your previous lifetime affect your social standing in the current life are just a lazy way of saying that "I'm not here because of what I did, but I'm just not going to do anything about it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 [quote name='ADHD-Guitar' timestamp='1307418802' post='5262783'] I don't believe in it, but it would be pretty damn awesome if it was real. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 It doesn't matter either way because if it were real then from what I can tell we must not be able to remember our previous incarnations making it all futile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenguinZ Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I have recorded 328 past lives (including one memory of eating a penguinz -shudder-) I also envisioned myself dying in 267 lives (yes I record it). But in my present life I believe we die and are gone, like a snuffed candle. Anything is possible though, like I once dreamed something and came true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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