Grunt Issun Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 A strange thing I noticed while looking through the amendments a few days ago (Were studying this part of history in Social Studies around now) and I noticed somthing that actually made me laugh on the inside Vauge description: Amendment 15: Blacks get the right to vote Amendment 19: Women get the right to vote It actually suprises me that in such a racist country (Although this is hundereds of years ago, so what do I know?) Blacks got the right to vote before women did! Discuss this, along with Racism and Sexism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Starrk Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I dont understand how we cant criticize the founding fathers for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frunk Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I'm not an American, but it's hardly surprising that Blacks got the vote before Women, nor does it make me think any less of America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Well, yeah...so?[/thread] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I don't get it either, and I feel bad for women and blacks at the time. If this should ever happen again, the entire world would lose their well, a not appropriate word. And you forgot the technical part, Black Men got to vote before all Women did. It's not funny, it's more ";-; ugh, eh not happening now" kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Women were always viewed as inferior and classically men were the breadwinners of the family, whether they liked it or not. Social norms required certain behavior and it was far more appropriate for more widespread male voting than to consider females whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smear Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 In Australia, Men - 1901. Women - 1902. Indigenous - 1962 As you can see, Australia was an extremely racist country. :L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judedudemude Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 in brittian they allbolish slavery way before america had their civil war the american civil war was mainly a giant fight about the moral delima over slavery then in February 3, 1870. Amendment 15 but still alot of buill sh1+ which made stuff hard for blacks in the late 1940s to 1950 Thurgood Marshall fights for the sames rights with surpreme court then later becomes the first black man to serve on the Supreme Court of the United States. (im american so all i know more or less american history) so alot un fair stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frunk Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 [quote name='Smeargle' timestamp='1300957246' post='5093137'] In Australia, Men - 1901. Women - 1902. Indigenous - 1962 As you can see, Australia was an extremely racist country. :L [/quote] It's nowhere near as simple as that. The indigenous populations of Australia were illiterate and not interested in mixing with the European settlers. That didn't change until the mid-50s, after which, progress was swift (compared to other countries) to recognise their wishes and rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Here, as none of you are smart enough to understand the law at the time, I'll edumacate you. Back then, men were viewed as the head of a household. Their vote essentially represented the whole family's. A husband and wife were two halves of a whole, so in [b]that culture[/b], there was no reason for women to vote, because their vote would be the same. However, women started campaigning for rights, and they got them. They showed the will to be able to have their own opinion, and they got it. I don't see the point of bitching about some crap that happened a long time ago. When you fix your car, do you complain about how it ran before it was fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 You do realize that Abraham Lincoln still thought that blacks were lower than whites and an inferior species? He freed slaves from the south but still thought that blacks were ignorant. Black soldiers in the Union army were paid less and treated terribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 [quote name='Mikhail Tal' timestamp='1300985571' post='5093547'] You do realize that Abraham Lincoln still thought that blacks were lower than whites and an inferior species? He freed slaves from the south but still thought that blacks were ignorant. Black soldiers in the Union army were paid less and treated terribly. [/quote] Well screw him then. Point is, we got the job done eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsterikcAde Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Face it, the so-called "founding fathers" of America are nothing but imperialistic racist-sexist bigot pigs from England that wanted to control the world. You call colonizing a country and bringing in another race of people for labor that BUILT the country from the ground up and killed most of the indigenous people is glorious? Man, are we f***ed up or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Î’yakuya Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Actually, blacks did get the rights to vote, but Jim Crow and lynching and the KKK and others sought to stop blacks from registering. Women officially got the right to register to vote. And it really, it doesn't matter that the blacks topped before women did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 1. Abraham Lincoln was a great president I couldn't care less what he thought... He abolished slavery thats all I care about... 2. The founding fathers of America were the greatest geniuses and masterminds... They helped found america and found a place to put the Ancient Mysteries and give the Free Masons a foot hold in founding the "New Jerusalem"... 3. Whether it was "Racism" or "Sexism" who cares... The point is they have their rights now... People were racist back then and if you lived during that time i can damn well guarantee you would feel the same way they did... [quote name='AsterikcAde' timestamp='1301006339' post='5094332'] Face it, the so-called "founding fathers" of America are nothing but imperialistic racist-sexist bigot pigs from England that wanted to control the world. You call colonizing a country and bringing in another race of people for labor that BUILT the country from the ground up and killed most of the indigenous people is glorious? Man, are we f***ed up or what? [/quote] Survival of the fittest... They failed we didnt its over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Face it, without slavery America probably wouldn't have been able to survive through the Industrial Revolution. The South's cotton (which was picked by slaves) was what fueled Northern factories to produce clothing, which was exported. Yeah, racism is a bad thing. Ok, slavery is morally wrong. Fine, thinking that different races/sexes are inferior is stupid. However, hindsight [i]is[/i] 20/20. And it doesn't matter, because weather you like it or not.... [img]http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3su5lz9AV1qankvno1_500.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Issun Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1301105051' post='5096834'] Face it, without slavery America probably wouldn't have been able to survive through the Industrial Revolution. The South's cotton (which was picked by slaves) was what fueled Northern factories to produce clothing, which was exported. Yeah, racism is a bad thing. Ok, slavery is morally wrong. Fine, thinking that different races/sexes are inferior is stupid. However, hindsight [i]is[/i] 20/20. And it doesn't matter, because weather you like it or not.... [img]http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3su5lz9AV1qankvno1_500.jpg[/img] [/quote] OBJECTION! Aliens built t- *shot* But yeah, if we never had slaves, we would probably be under the rule of England, instead of the great American government we have today........ wait a minute... DAMN IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 [quote name='Mikhail Tal' timestamp='1300985571' post='5093547'] You do realize that Abraham Lincoln still thought that blacks were lower than whites and an inferior species? He freed slaves from the south but still thought that blacks were ignorant. Black soldiers in the Union army were paid less and treated terribly. [/quote] He actually didn't care. He didn't want slavery to expand too far, but he had no thoughts about freeing current slaves until the Civil War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 The Pyramids can't be used in this argument, as they were built by Egyptian Farmers, not Slaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frunk Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 [quote name='Wang Fire' timestamp='1301168328' post='5098160'] But yeah, if we never had slaves, we would probably be under the rule of England, instead of the great American government we have today........ wait a minute... DAMN IT! [/quote] Not likely. The majority of major British Imperial territories are independent nations now. The U.S.A. would have become it's own country at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 There is a perfectly reasonable explanation: We couldn't invent the technology so women could vote in the kitchen until the 20's. Obviously. [color="#FFFFFF"]/sarcasm[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 What about African American Women. They had both racism and sexism. The black men only got the rights to vote, until the 19th Amendment allowing women of all races to vote...not the native Americans. And segregation was present until the Civil Rights Movements. The KKK still exists today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 WHO FRIGGIN CARES. It's over. Must I repeat myself? Do you fix a car and continue to b**** about the problems it used to have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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