tehking Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 He was used in the anime by Yubel Johan and was recently released in the Johan Anderson duelist pack as a super. I dont see what is good about his effect. It reads "This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned from your hand to your opponent's side of the field by also Special Summoning 2 "Grinder Tokens" (Fiend-Type/DARK/Level 1/ATK 0/DEF 0) in face-up Attack Position on your side of the field. If you Special Summon this monster you cannot Normal Summon or Set during the same turn." So your opponent gets a free non-tribute 3000 ATK monster and you get 2 tokens with 0 ATK and DEF and they cant change their positions the turn you summon them so...whats good about it? What are good strategies with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 then you tribute the tokens for Zaborg i assume...... or not... i dont know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Inferno Tempest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 then you tribute the tokens for Zaborg i assume...... or not... i dont know...Can't Normal Summon xP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 oh. well then. infernal tempest as Under Age said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 In a Necroface OTK deck. RFG all monsters. Then Necroface RFGs 15 cards from both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAG Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Unless you combo it with some monster stealing card, then it's not of much use other than infernal tempest..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Unless you combo it with some monster stealing card' date=' then it's not of much use other than infernal tempest.....[/quote'] That's why I suggested to combine it with Necroface... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 It was a lot more useful for Yubel, whose decks all had opponent-destroying cards that also inflicted damage to them xP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAG Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Unless you combo it with some monster stealing card' date=' then it's not of much use other than infernal tempest.....[/quote'] That's why I suggested to combine it with Necroface...i'm not familiar with the necroface OTK. plz tell me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b7hamma Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Attack Grinder with a token, 3000 damage, Tempest, remove all monsters from play, 3 x Necroface. Average deck runs 20 monsters, 3 Necros remove 15 cards, you draw 5 cards when you start a duel. Do the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstract [Atrocity] Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 As stated before, Inferno Tempest + 3 Necrofaces. Or, just play him when your opponent has no monstersand Creature Swap one of the tokens to get him free. Also good in a Relinquished deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaco Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Attack Grinder with a token' date=' 3000 damage, Tempest, remove all monsters from play, 3 x Necroface. Average deck runs 20 monsters, 3 Necros remove 15 cards, you draw 5 cards when you start a duel. Do the math.[/quote'] Ahhh, quite good, quite good. I need to stay on top of the new cards more. It's been kinda hard since I haven't played in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XanderTheGreat Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Ah yes, Grinder Golem. The Torturing Infernal Necrosis deck(Grinder Golem's OCG name is Torture Golem FYI). I made a deck at GFaqs some time ago. Although it is now currently lost in his bowels, meaning that I don't have the decklist for now. Shmucks. -_- One small weakness for the deck concept: if the opponent runs very few monsters, you are screwed, because you can't cause the deckout from Inferno Tempest in the first place. Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 It's useful if you run Destiny Hero Plasma or Relinquished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 yeah... there really isnt much to do with this card since you cant tribte the tokens in the same turn, like in the anime liek the above people have said... Inferno Tempest with Necroface is probably the best idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 if you were looking to completely waste a turn... you could use the old trap card... Two Prong Attack... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAG Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Attack Grinder with a token' date=' 3000 damage, Tempest, remove all monsters from play, 3 x Necroface. Average deck runs 20 monsters, 3 Necros remove 15 cards, you draw 5 cards when you start a duel. Do the math.[/quote'] ah, very interesting. Useful if you opponent relies on monsters. But other than that, there's really not much use for it, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhcman21 Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 it seems to go perfectly against monarch decks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Attack Grinder with a token' date=' 3000 damage, Tempest, remove all monsters from play, 3 x Necroface. Average deck runs 20 monsters, 3 Necros remove 15 cards, you draw 5 cards when you start a duel. Do the math.[/quote'] necro removes 5, another puts them back in the deck and does another 5, and a third puts them back and removes another 5. In the End, 5 cards are removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Age_User Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Attack Grinder with a token' date=' 3000 damage, Tempest, remove all monsters from play, 3 x Necroface. Average deck runs 20 monsters, 3 Necros remove 15 cards, you draw 5 cards when you start a duel. Do the math.[/quote'] necro removes 5, another puts them back in the deck and does another 5, and a third puts them back and removes another 5. In the End, 5 cards are removed. Except... no. It removes all monsters. It removes 3 Necrofaces. They never get normal summoned onto the field. The RFG zone is never shuffled back in. In the end, 15 cards + all the monsters are removed. GG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XanderTheGreat Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Attack Grinder with a token' date=' 3000 damage, Tempest, remove all monsters from play, 3 x Necroface. Average deck runs 20 monsters, 3 Necros remove 15 cards, you draw 5 cards when you start a duel. Do the math.[/quote'] necro removes 5, another puts them back in the deck and does another 5, and a third puts them back and removes another 5. In the End, 5 cards are removed. You, sir, need to read the card carefully. "When this card is Normal Summoned, shuffle all removed from play cards into their owner's Decks. This card gains 100 ATK for each of those cards. When this card is removed from play, both players remove from play the top 5 cards of their Deck." Tell me, when is this card actually normal summoned in the first place when Inferno Tempest is activated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warrior of Hope Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 When you Special Summon this card to your opponents side of the field, you obtain 2 Grinder Token ATK-0 DEF-0. Use Creature Swap to obtain Grinder Golem and switch your control of one of your Grinder Tokens to your opponents. Then Inflict Battle Damage to your opponents Token. Of course, your opponent has the advatage of attacking your tokens, if you don't use Creature Swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 -Grinder Golem otk-Creature Swap-Creature Seizure-Owner's Seal/Mark of Proprietor-Relinqueshed (token can be used to summon him as well)-Plasma (tokens can be used to summon him as well)-United We Stand (you might win the exact turn)-Cannon Soldier MK-2 (you might win the exact turn)-The World (you might win next turn ;)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 If you run Plasma, it's helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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