D.A._Sakuyamon Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061226060935/yugioh/images/thumb/9/90/Pharaoh%27sTreasurePGD-EN-R.jpg/300px-Pharaoh%27sTreasurePGD-EN-R.jpg[/img] [color=#3A3A3A][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=2]After activation, put this card [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Face-up"]face-up[/url] in your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck"]Deck[/url] and [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle"]shuffle[/url] it. When you [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Draw_a_card"]draw[/url] this card, [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Send"]send[/url] it to the [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard"]Graveyard[/url] and add 1 card in your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard"]Graveyard[/url] (except this card) to your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand"]hand[/url].[/size][/font][/color] [color=#3A3A3A][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=2] [/size][/font][/color] [color=#3A3A3A][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=2]I know there are better cards revival cards now but theres just something about this card that I love. [/size][/font][/color] [color=#3A3A3A][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][size=2] [/size][/font][/color] [font="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"][color="#3a3a3a"][size=2]Discuss [/size][/color][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 So it's a Trap that thickens your deck by 1 card and relies on you drawing that specific copy later in the duel, plus having something valuable in your Graveyard? Right now, I can think of a combo with Cat of Ill Omen, or running lots of draw power, but in the latter case, the retrieval options are slim. I like it, but would never use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted May 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1306177744' post='5227443'] So it's a Trap that thickens your deck by 1 card and relies on you drawing that specific copy later in the duel, plus having something valuable in your Graveyard? Right now, I can think of a combo with Cat of Ill Omen, or running lots of draw power, but in the latter case, the retrieval options are slim. I like it, but would never use it. [/quote] Hmm, thinking about it, Dark World could use this. Use dealings to draw it, then it goes instantly to grave and you pull a Dark world monster to your hand and discard it. Other then that though, There isn't much use besides trying to save yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 [quote name='♥ D.A._ϯɨå Håʀʀɨbel ♥' timestamp='1306178612' post='5227480'] Hmm, thinking about it, Dark World could use this. Use dealings to draw it, then it goes instantly to grave and you pull a Dark world monster to your hand and discard it. Other then that though, There isn't much use besides trying to save yourself [/quote] I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work like that, as Dealings would be mid-resolution, so Treasure should not be able to activate until after the current chain has resolved. EDIT: Looked it up. Pharoah's Treasure will miss the timing if the last action is not it being drawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted May 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1306179202' post='5227504'] I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work like that, as Dealings would be mid-resolution, so Treasure should not be able to activate until after the current chain has resolved. EDIT: Looked it up. Pharoah's Treasure will miss the timing if the last action is not it being drawn. [/quote] Yeah same here (As in I looked it up to), though if it did it'd make it pretty good. -sigh- Cursed timing rules. -sigh- But they're there for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Another card that suffers from timing issues. And Dark World doesn't have the space for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted May 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Fair enough. maybe Synchro to extra deck use? (not really sure about it though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 [quote name='♥ D.A._ϯɨå Håʀʀɨbel ♥' timestamp='1306180462' post='5227576'] Fair enough. maybe Synchro to extra deck use? (not really sure about it though) [/quote] Pot of Avarice Draw 2 cards, then return 5 Synchros to your Extra Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Well, it's not hard to trigger, you just can't draw it mid-chain/resolution. My issue with it is that 1) It's a Trap 2) It goes back to your deck and you need to draw it again. That makes it slow AND inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted May 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1306194191' post='5228074'] Well, it's not hard to trigger, you just can't draw it mid-chain/resolution. My issue with it is that 1) It's a Trap 2) It goes back to your deck and you need to draw it again. That makes it slow AND inconsistent. [/quote] Well the way i see it, it's mostly a life saver. Plus your going to know your when you'll draw it. Though your opponent will to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 If it either: a) Did not miss the timing. Could make up for the -1 at least temporally c) Could guarantee that you would draw it within that Duel without relying on a FLIP and such. It can be amusing, but has too many drawbacks (+ its a Trap) ^^" With the appropriate support made, it could go somewhere though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Only people with the luck of main characters can use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted May 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant' timestamp='1306206949' post='5228394'] Only people with the luck of main characters can use it. [/quote] Lol.............amusingly this card was never used in the mangas or animes............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 The ability to recover ANY card from the Graveyard is great, but the whole idea behind returning it to the deck and then drawing it again just makes it unlikely to go off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted May 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Well exodia would be the best choice of putting this in. though it'd slow it down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 [quote name='♥ D.A._ϯɨå Håʀʀɨbel ♥' timestamp='1306207413' post='5228405']though it'd slow it down a bit. [/quote] [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nfkUveGxxk4/TA8BX008cmI/AAAAAAAABKE/8X_PSmdt96Q/s1600/Point.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted May 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 At the very least you have a means to get pieces back and reuse big draws. In exoidia I think its better then phoenix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 [quote name='♥ D.A._ϯɨå Håʀʀɨbel ♥' timestamp='1306207747' post='5228414'] At the very least you have a means to get pieces back and reuse big draws. In exoidia I think its better then phoenix. [/quote] I lol'd. Dark Eruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted May 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1306208104' post='5228427'] I lol'd. Dark Eruption. [/quote] Pharaohs Treasures better. Cause you can get anything in your graveyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 [quote name='♥ D.A._ϯɨå Håʀʀɨbel ♥' timestamp='1306232867' post='5228720'] Pharaohs Treasures better. Cause you can get anything in your graveyard [/quote] [img]http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/wat.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted May 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 A Feather of the Phoenix - good card but your discarding a card along with it self to add 1 card to the top of your deck. unless you'v got something to draw it, it's possible that it'll die. Dark Eruption - Exodia piece regain, good card but limited to just a dark monster with 1500 or less attack. Pharaohs Treasure - Like Dark Eruption your only negging 1 card from your hand, and like Feather your adding a card to the deck. Difference being is that it's less likely to be destroyed and can take a bit to get. Does that matter? Not really, your running exodia where drawings essential. So your going to go through your Deck pretty fast anyways. Once you draw into this, you'll get a free card from your grave to your hand. And thats any card to your hand. In conclusion, Pharaohs better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Phoenix isn't good in Exodia. Eruption...eh, I usually prefer using Backup Soldier mixed with indiscriminate self-deck destruction. Nothing like discarding 10 cards for Card Destruction... But Exodia needs to be fast to be good, and using a card slot for a slow, inconsistent retrieval method that is a -1 (really bad in a deck that can't afford a hand under 5 for an extended stretch of time) isn't that great. That said, the retrieval option of ANY card is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 [quote name='♥ D.A._ϯɨå Håʀʀɨbel ♥' timestamp='1306234063' post='5228733'] A Feather of the Phoenix - good card but your discarding a card along with it self to add 1 card to the top of your deck. unless you'v got something to draw it, it's possible that it'll die. Dark Eruption - Exodia piece regain, good card but limited to just a dark monster with 1500 or less attack. Pharaohs Treasure - Like Dark Eruption your only negging 1 card from your hand, and like Feather your adding a card to the deck. Difference being is that it's less likely to be destroyed and can take a bit to get. Does that matter? Not really, your running exodia where drawings essential. So your going to go through your Deck pretty fast anyways. Once you draw into this, you'll get a free card from your grave to your hand. And thats any card to your hand. In conclusion, Pharaohs better [/quote] ¬_¬" umm.... Pharaoh's Treasure: Your draw is not "free" at all. You lost 1 card beforehand when you activated it. A (-1) that didn't make anything for you at the time and might not even do anything for you within the Duel. A Feather of the Phoenix is no good in Exodia either. Loosing too many cards in your hand can hurt you as most Exodia Decks I've seen don't add much more card advantage. Also, if they are not OTK (One Turn Kill) Decks, you'll need to use up some of your hand at some point (actually, even with OTK versions you'll have to occasionally depending on your luck). Dark Eruption might be "[i]limited[/i]" to 1500 or lower DARK monsters, but that's all you need to get because Exodia Decks completely focus on Exodia. The rest is only support for it, so what better options than Exodia could you get? Not to mention the card is a (+0) unlike the former ones, and it WILL get you what you need instantly to your hand. That said, I like using Dark Factory of Mass Production =P (too bad it can't get the head, but other than that its good. -------- Putting all the above aside. All the above stuff will not do. You shouldn't allow your pieces of Exodia to even touch your Graveyard. It makes them a fair target for your opponent to remove from play.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 [quote name='♥ D.A._ϯɨå Håʀʀɨbel ♥' timestamp='1306234063' post='5228733'] Pharaohs Treasure - Like Dark Eruption your only negging 1 card from your hand, and like Feather your adding a card to the deck. Difference being is that it's less likely to be destroyed and can take a bit to get. Does that matter? Not really, your running exodia where drawings essential. So your going to go through your Deck pretty fast anyways. Once you draw into this, you'll get a free card from your grave to your hand. And thats any card to your hand. In conclusion, Pharaohs better [/quote] Running Pharaos Treasure over Dark Eruption in an Exodia deck means that you're wasting a turn to set it up, and hoping on the off-chance of drawing into it again. Get what I'm hinting? A turn; a turn wasted that you cannot afford to lose. The only good Exodia decks out there are the FTK variants. Meaning that a turn you waste is a turn where you could have used more cards that let you draw instead of this card, that has to be set. Dark Euption however just adds 2 monsters to your hand with 1500 ATK or less. It doesn't waste a turn. So what if it doesn't return any card? It's still better than Pharaohs Treasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted May 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 [quote name='sleepy' timestamp='1306251876' post='5228954'] ¬_¬" umm.... Pharaoh's Treasure: Your draw is not "free" at all. You lost 1 card beforehand when you activated it. A (-1) that didn't make anything for you at the time and might not even do anything for you within the Duel. A Feather of the Phoenix is no good in Exodia either. Loosing too many cards in your hand can hurt you as most Exodia Decks I've seen don't add much more card advantage. Also, if they are not OTK (One Turn Kill) Decks, you'll need to use up some of your hand at some point (actually, even with OTK versions you'll have to occasionally depending on your luck). Dark Eruption might be "[i]limited[/i]" to 1500 or lower DARK monsters, but that's all you need to get because Exodia Decks completely focus on Exodia. The rest is only support for it, so what better options than Exodia could you get? Not to mention the card is a (+0) unlike the former ones, and it WILL get you what you need instantly to your hand. That said, I like using Dark Factory of Mass Production =P (too bad it can't get the head, but other than that its good. -------- Putting all the above aside. All the above stuff will not do. You shouldn't allow your pieces of Exodia to even touch your Graveyard. It makes them a fair target for your opponent to remove from play.... [/quote] I discount negs and +s after a turn ends putting things back to 0 [quote name='Godfather Zandaa' timestamp='1306260187' post='5229167'] Running Pharaos Treasure over Dark Eruption in an Exodia deck means that you're wasting a turn to set it up, and hoping on the off-chance of drawing into it again. Get what I'm hinting? A turn; a turn wasted that you cannot afford to lose. The only good Exodia decks out there are the FTK variants. Meaning that a turn you waste is a turn where you could have used more cards that let you draw instead of this card, that has to be set. Dark Euption however just adds 2 monsters to your hand with 1500 ATK or less. It doesn't waste a turn. So what if it doesn't return any card? It's still better than Pharaohs Treasure. [/quote] ^thats 1 monster Personally exp. has had me saved more often with pharaohs treasure then with dark eruption. Thats what I'm basing in terms of use here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.