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[quote name='BT.' timestamp='1321489795' post='5647346']
UGH I DONT WANT TO CATCH UP WITH BLEACH... COMPARED TO WHERE I AM AT I AM 10 YEARS BEHIND U GUYS
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Eh.
That's okay, I guess.
Though depending on next week's chapter, it might turn to YOU NEED TO CATCH UP DUDE, FR RLZ.

Ulquiorra vs Kenpachi, yeah I'd say Ulquiorra, but it'd be close.

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[quote name='Itachi V. Remo' timestamp='1321490583' post='5647398']
But just the fact that his regular everyday form without kido or shunpo can give Segunda Etapa a run for its money makes Zaraki better in my opinion
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That doesn't mean he'd win ._.

And, at that, who says he could even igve a run for money? He only gave Nnoitra one once he went all out.

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[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1321490768' post='5647413']
That doesn't mean he'd win ._.

And, at that, who says he could even igve a run for money? He only gave Nnoitra one once he went all out.
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When he went all-out, he pwned Nnoitra, didn't he?


And regardless, Kenpachi is better, talent-wise, but if they fought now, Ulquiorra would win.

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Kenpachi and Byakuya are on a similar level
Byakuya got owned by NORMAL Hollow Ichigo AKA Basic Possession
Byakuya + Kenny is enough to kill Yammy
Ulqui was able to beat the hell out of Ichigo with JUST RESURRECION
This Ichigo was much, much, MUCH more skilled and powerful than when he fought Byakuya
Full Hollow Ichigo slaughtered SE Ulqui, who was, on paper, more than powerful enough to beat Byakuya at even Murcielago.
Regular Ulqui = About Byakuya level

Conclusion: MAYBE new Kenny could fight back, but NO WAY IN HELL could he beat Ulqui.

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[quote name='Darklink401' timestamp='1321491375' post='5647458']
When he went all-out, he pwned Nnoitra, didn't he?


And regardless, Kenpachi is better, talent-wise, but if they fought now, Ulquiorra would win.
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pwned isn't the word

He raped him

And then proceeded to make him look like a fool when Nnoitra (man with the self proclaimed strongest heirro) wasn't able to land a cut even when he directly attacked Zaraki. He essentially took his title out from under him. And seeing as Nnoitra was only one level off of Ulqui (excluding Segunda Etapa) and he raped him he would probably give him a run for his money (mind you Ulquiorras "perk", if you will, is extremely powerful raw reiatsu which is essentially Zaraki's perk as well)

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But it's been over 1.5 years since then and that's a long time, or at least enough time to get a lot stronger. We haven't really seen just HOW much stronger they've all gotten since pretty much everyone besides Byakuya had an easy opponent, so we can only guess, but I kinda think Byakuya and Kenpachi could take Ulquiorra now.

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[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1321492045' post='5647505']
Kenpachi and Byakuya are on a similar level
Byakuya got owned by NORMAL Hollow Ichigo AKA Basic Possession
Byakuya + Kenny is enough to kill Yammy
Ulqui was able to beat the hell out of Ichigo with JUST RESURRECION
This Ichigo was much, much, MUCH more skilled and powerful than when he fought Byakuya
Full Hollow Ichigo slaughtered SE Ulqui, who was, on paper, more than powerful enough to beat Byakuya at even Murcielago.
Regular Ulqui = About Byakuya level

Conclusion: MAYBE new Kenny could fight back, but NO WAY IN HELL could he beat Ulqui.
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Kenpachi lost (kinda) to pre-bankai Ichigo

Kenpachi later killed Nnoitra

pre-bankai Ichigo > Nnoitra?

also, Kenpachi defeated [i]two[/i] captains

Pre-bankai Ichigo [u]>[/u] two captains?

do you see the flaw in that sort of logic Black?

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[quote name='Itachi V. Remo' timestamp='1321492838' post='5647542']
Kenpachi lost (kinda) to pre-bankai Ichigo

Kenpachi later killed Nnoitra

pre-bankai Ichigo > Nnoitra?

also, Kenpachi defeated [i]two[/i] captains

Pre-bankai Ichigo [u]>[/u] two captains?

do you see the flaw in that sort of logic Black?
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Kenpachi did NOT go all out on Pre-Bankai Ichigo. He didn't use Kendo, and he was able to walk away like nothing happened, until herpderp godmode.hax

There's also the fact that Kenpachi was really just having fun with Ichigo ._.

So, no, not seeing a flaw =o

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[quote name='Itachi V. Remo' timestamp='1321493254' post='5647553']
lolheletIchigothefirstpersontoevergetclosetodefeatinghimandforcinghimtotakeoffhiseyepatchgosimplybecausehewalkedawayfromagoodfight

There's no flaw at ALL
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No, I meant pre-godhax, he just killed Ichigo, and left out of boredom- then hax

Then Ichigo came close to defeating him, but Ichigo did NOT inflict a mortal wound, and Kenny did a good number on Ichigo, too. You can't really use this godmode as an argument, as it's a one-time Zangetsu power up. Hichigo is recurring.

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If anything, Zangetsu getting in the fight would spike anybody's interest, let alone Zaraki's

And even still, Bankai is still probably stronger than one-time Zangetsu power-up

Not only that but Zaraki considers it his first and only defeat

And the fact the pre-bankai Ichigo forcing him to take off his eyepatch is should be enough

one-time Zangetsu power-up or not

... I love how we consider kendo to be a power up compared to other power ups

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[quote name='Itachi V. Remo' timestamp='1321493699' post='5647569']
If anything, Zangetsu getting in the fight would spike anybody's interest, let alone Zaraki's

And even still, Bankai is still probably stronger than one-time Zangetsu power-up

Not only that but Zaraki considers it his first and only defeat

And the fact the pre-bankai Ichigo forcing him to take off his eyepatch is should be enough

one-time Zangetsu power-up or not

... I love how we consider kendo to be a power up compared to other power ups
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The power up was a FULL RESTORE. Vs. Zaraki @50% health. Plus X-ATK, X-Sp. ATK, and X-Speed ._.

It sorta is a power up

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