byak Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 They emergency hit Allure when it was only TCG iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1310957652' post='5364695'] @LZ: Explain why it was Royal Tribute that was hit instead of the GK suport that made them usable. [/quote] Tengu is run in a massive percentage of decks. GKs don't even compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＳＩＲＩＳ' timestamp='1310957806' post='5364703'] They emergency hit Allure when it was only TCG iirc [/quote] And it was promptly moved back to 3 at the next list change, proving my point. @LZ: My point. You missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1310957652' post='5364695'] @LZ: Explain why it was Royal Tribute that was hit instead of the GK suport that made them usable. [/quote] Costless hand bomb/viewing isn't a reason? EDIT: Also recruiter not liking Spy isn't a reason for it to not be touched? EDIT2: Was I just like triple ninja'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1310957883' post='5364709'] @LZ: My point. You missed it. [/quote] Your point. I can't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1310958476' post='5364738'] Your point. I can't find it. [/quote] GKs not being widespread enough is irrelevant, it was major enough for them to hit. My point was that, despite the TCG exclusives being what made them worth using, they hit Royal Tribute, which a lot of builds I see don't even run anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1310958476' post='5364738'] Your point. I can't find it. [/quote] He's arguing to us that Konami never hits TCG exclusives ever. He's saying how come Tribute was hit and not Recruiter. EDIT: Ninja'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 I'd just hit stele tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Oh! Well that was Konami knowing the problem, but not knowing how the hell to fix it. If they really didn't hit Recruiter because it is a TCG exclusive then that's awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 They haven't hit darksoul and we've had it for a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Darksoul only works in Sabers and the deck already dies just by calling out Failtroll with Prohibition. Yes, I have dueled with and against Sabers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Maybe they just assume that whatever broken s*** they put out, it will eventually lose favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｂｉｇ ＳＡＴＵＲＮ' timestamp='1310959210' post='5364789'] Darksoul only works in Sabers and the deck already dies just by calling out Failtroll with Prohibition. Yes, I have dueled with and against Sabers. [/quote] You have no idea how wrong you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 I kinda do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 2 Things I felt needed to be said. 1: This [i]is[/i] Konami meaning they are going to do some stupid or weird s***. Theres alot of cards that [i]should[/i] be on the list (or off) which most likely wont be moved since they aren't having an impact on the meta. 2: The format as we know it right now still has another 2 months of refining to do. The meta may shift during that time (its possible) and certain combos might arise and prove broken (quillbolt looping for example). For now, however, I doubt Konami will have any idea on what to put on the list until we draw closer to September (meaning, as it stands right now, there is no way quillbolt will even be considered anything other than 3). I'll post my wants/list later and than post what a realistic Konami list may look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='Ｔｈｅ ｂｉｇ ＳＡＴＵＲＮ' timestamp='1310960170' post='5364833'] I kinda do. [/quote] Have you read XX-Saber Hyunlei? Or mst for that matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [b]Banned:[/b] -Future Fusion -Fishborg -Mind Master -Fortress Dragon [b]Limited:[/b] -Lonefire -Avarice -Coelacanth -Formula Synchron -That Six-sam Synchro -Tribe Infecting Viruz -Hyper Librarian [b]Semi-Limited:[/b] -Tengu [b]Unlimited:[/b] -MST Treeborn, Darksoul(or Faultroll), Spore, and Glow up are debatable too.... Not sure if I'm missing something here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Banning bulb/spore makes relatively no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＳＩＲＩＳ' timestamp='1310963288' post='5364971'] Banning bulb/spore makes relatively no sense [/quote] Limiting/Semi Limiting doesn't. Banning would actually make a change. Although nobody complained before Tengu (as far as I know) sooo.. they might not be the problem cards to target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Banned: Brionac(just natural hate, sorry) Limited: Trishula Glow Up Bulb Spore Dandylion Formula Semi: Tengu Snipe Hunter(lucky bastard) Magical Explosion Mirror Force Unlimited: MST I honestly have no problem with Shi-En, I faced a deck that Solidarity, some samurai above level 6, and some field spell that supported them and still murdered the deck with no problem. Just destroy the supports asap before the beatstick comes on the field. A lot of decks are nothing without their support and vice versa. In decks like sams just break the supports. I honestly don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Hmm... Trish to 2. Book of Moon to 2. Hyperion to 2. Tengu to follow Malicious. Unlimited Card Gunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='Ｄ・モバホン' timestamp='1310967270' post='5365216'] Unlimited Card Gunner. [/quote] I lol'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1310968278' post='5365274'] I lol'd. [/quote] You can lol all you want, but it'll happen. You see, you have to think one step ahead of the lolnami logic... That reminds me. Does anyone remember the semi-limiting of CyDra? Then the Unlimiting of CyDra. And do you know of any deck in the current meta that USES CyDra? The same thing goes for Card Gunner, in which its only way that it was truly good was to abuse Dandy's effect or mill Plague/Spore/Glow-Up. Since most people here see all of the aforementioned cards at 1, I don't see any reason why Card Gunner shouldn't be @3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 If Card Trooper becomes unlimited people will play 3 Trooper just because of Troop Dupe Scoop. It's not like it won't be unpopular. Lightsworn Troop Dupe basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＳＩＲＩＳ' timestamp='1310969321' post='5365345'] If Card Trooper becomes unlimited people will play 3 Trooper just because of Troop Dupe Scoop. It's not like it won't be unpopular. Lightsworn Troop Dupe basically [/quote] It will also open up the variety of decks as well, so we won't be seeing JUST Tengu variants and Six Sams and GKs running rampant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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