Toffee. Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Evil HEROs consist of: [url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Evil_HERO_Dark_Gaia]OTK-Guy[/url], [url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Evil_HERO_Infernal_Gainer]Double-Attack-Guy[/url], [url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Evil_HERO_Infernal_Prodigy]Plot Device draw engine[/url], [url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Evil_HERO_Lightning_Golem]Badass Lightning Golem[/url], [url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Evil_HERO_Malicious_Edge]Bladedge's cousin[/url], [url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Evil_Hero_Infernal_Sniper]Forever Alone-Sniper[/url], [url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Evil_Hero_Inferno_Wing]Does-a-lot-of-damage Wing[/url], [url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Evil_Hero_Malicious_Fiend]Recently-discussed-Magnet[/url], and [url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Evil_Hero_Wild_Cyclone]Nobody-uses-this-guy[/url]. They have an awesome version of Polymerization, there own Miracle Fusion, and generic HERO support like Prisma, Stratos, and Absolute Zero. I always liked running Evil HEROs, mostly because they can easily gain field advantage and what-not. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 inb4HaouJudai They are amazing. Lightning Golem is just overkill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 [quote name='CDDRodrigo' timestamp='1311268014' post='5374528'] Lightning Golem is just overkill.[/quote] He even has Honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 I really wish they had more regular effect monsters, instead of only like... 3? Would make them so much cooler, and more usable as an archetype, imo. Definitely the best things that came out of GX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Arma - I think there's a cozy little niche for evil heros coming to light - and it's due to all the hero support - There are the big 3 when it comes to Evil Heroes - Lightning Golem / Dark Gaia and Malicious Fiend. They are honestly the only ones that are playable. The reason I'm saying they may be more relevant in the near future is because of all the hero hate that's going to be sided. In particular puppet plant. I had Dark Gaia out and tbh an experienced tournament veteran tried to drop puppet plant on him and I had to explain he's a fiend. That got me to thinking... evil heroes can easily fill in the gap that elemental heroes have in fusion decks. Think about it. The only way for Absolute Zero to get rid of a fd Ryko is to leave the field - unless you put Lightning Golem alongside him and kill it off. Heroes worry about attribute - Evil Heroes worry about type. As Rock and Fiend get better and better so does Dark Gaia (who may finally be a holo soon) Here is an idea I've been working on. [spoiler=Haou's deck after Oct] 1 Sparkman 1 Clayman 2 Prisma 1 Ocean 1 Stratos 1 Voltic 1 Heat 1 Doomcaliber 1 KM Guardian 2 Malicious Edge 1 BP Golem 1 Grand Mole 2 Battle Fader 1 Gorz 2 KoTs 1 Cyber Dragon 3 Dark Calling 3 Miracle Fusion 1 Super Poly 1 Poly 1 Future Fusion 1 Book of Moon 2 Mst 1 Trunade 1 Reborn 1 Dark Hole 1 E Call 1 RoTa 3 Royal Decree 2 Zero 2 Nova 1 Tornado 1 Shining 1 Gaia 1 Dark Gaia 1 Lightning Golem 1 Malicious Edge 1 Chimeratech Fortress 1 Multipiece Golem 1 Terra Firma 1 Adoration 1 Draco Equiste[/spoiler] Evil Heroes are going to love adoration. They are also going to love Nova Master because Malicious Fiend will be double useful. As time goes by heroes are going to get new list additions - miracle fusion - future fusion and probably super poly as well. Dark Calling probably will never see the list so it becomes more viable. The thing that's hurting any hero deck right now is the tiny 15 card extra deck. There are so many new options and so little space. I really feel that using the extra deck as a regulatory measure is a failed idea on konami's part and I hope they open the number up to something reasonable soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Recently discussed magnet is still my favorite Evil Hero, although OTK guy is awesome. <3 dem If only they were summonable with Super Poly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 [quote name='HaouJudai' timestamp='1311268670' post='5374578'] Arma - I think there's a cozy little niche for evil heros coming to light - and it's due to all the hero support - There are the big 3 when it comes to Evil Heroes - Lightning Golem / Dark Gaia and Malicious Fiend. They are honestly the only ones that are playable. The reason I'm saying they may be more relevant in the near future is because of all the hero hate that's going to be sided. In particular puppet plant. I had Dark Gaia out and tbh an experienced tournament veteran tried to drop puppet plant on him and I had to explain he's a fiend. That got me to thinking... evil heroes can easily fill in the gap that elemental heroes have in fusion decks. Think about it. The only way for Absolute Zero to get rid of a fd Ryko is to leave the field - unless you put Lightning Golem alongside him and kill it off. Heroes worry about attribute - Evil Heroes worry about type. As Rock and Fiend get better and better so does Dark Gaia (who may finally be a holo soon) Here is an idea I've been working on. [spoiler=Haou's deck after Oct] 1 Sparkman 1 Clayman 2 Prisma 1 Ocean 1 Stratos 1 Voltic 1 Heat 1 Doomcaliber 1 KM Guardian 2 Malicious Edge 1 BP Golem 1 Grand Mole 2 Battle Fader 1 Gorz 2 KoTs 1 Cyber Dragon 3 Dark Calling 3 Miracle Fusion 1 Super Poly 1 Poly 1 Future Fusion 1 Book of Moon 2 Mst 1 Trunade 1 Reborn 1 Dark Hole 1 E Call 1 RoTa 3 Royal Decree 2 Zero 2 Nova 1 Tornado 1 Shining 1 Gaia 1 Dark Gaia 1 Lightning Golem 1 Malicious Edge 1 Chimeratech Fortress 1 Multipiece Golem 1 Terra Firma 1 Adoration 1 Draco Equiste[/spoiler] Evil Heroes are going to love adoration. They are also going to love Nova Master because Malicious Fiend will be double useful. As time goes by heroes are going to get new list additions - miracle fusion - future fusion and probably super poly as well. Dark Calling probably will never see the list so it becomes more viable. The thing that's hurting any hero deck right now is the tiny 15 card extra deck. There are so many new options and so little space. I really feel that using the extra deck as a regulatory measure is a failed idea on konami's part and I hope they open the number up to something reasonable soon. [/quote] Puppet Plant is already sided as Sam and Saber hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 [quote name='Cyber Eltanin' timestamp='1311271014' post='5374710'] If only they were summonable with Super Poly [/quote] OH HELL NO... Super Poly's only difference between the anime and actual printed copy, is that it ignores specific polymers and such. Though TBH, they only really removed that [i]because[/i] just about every Fusion monster(Except the contact ones, Fortress, and Evil Heros) don't have any specific polymer as there requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1311271723' post='5374737'] OH HELL NO... Super Poly's only difference between the anime and actual printed copy, is that it ignores specific polymers and such. Though TBH, they only really removed that [i]because[/i] just about every Fusion monster(Except the contact ones, Fortress, and Evil Heros) don't have any specific polymer as there requirement. [/quote] Anime Super Poly allows you to Fuse with cards in hand, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 We need a spell that can fusion summon any HERO monster - I don't care where it looks at - Something that can work like poly but meets the dark fusion requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/256872-evil-omni/"]It's funny because I just did some Evil Hero support.[/url] But I wish Konami made more cards for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 [quote name='Tristan T. Taylor' timestamp='1311268585' post='5374571'] Definitely the best things that came out of GX. [/quote] idunnoboutdat [img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/7/70/DandylionJUMP-EN-UR-LE.png[/img] [color="#FFFFFF"]I also recall seeing a retarded version of REDMD in the show as well.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 [quote name='Bringerofcake' timestamp='1311274474' post='5374868'] But I wish Konami made more cards for them.[/quote] But if they did that, they would have to make more Masked Heros, NEX monsters, and Miracle Contact Fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 [quote name='Cyber Eltanin' timestamp='1311271014' post='5374710'] If only they were summonable with Super Poly [/quote] [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1311271723' post='5374737'] OH HELL NO... [/quote] [img]http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1248/w9zeno1311291289.jpg[/img] OT: I played them about a year ago on WC10. They were cool, but I prefer the Masked Heroes over them all. :/ When they OTK, they go overkill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1311288697' post='5375561'] [img]http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1248/w9zeno1311291289.jpg[/img][/quote] [img]http://gametechmods.com/../uploads/images/22421Icwutudidthar.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 The only reason I want them super polyable is that I can do a Dark Judai style victory. Awesome. You know you want it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Cyber Eltanin' timestamp='1311295160' post='5375801'] The only reason I want them super polyable is that I can do a Dark Judai style victory.[/quote] But of course, Super Poly ended up being "better" with [s]Jaden[/s] Judai's former cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Dark Gaia OTK is fun to play. also how much draw power can be thrown into the deck without much of a problems. Off top of my head PoA, Allure(because your other fiends are gonna be dark most of the time), and possibly Trade-in. I forgot when was this Deck somewhat big again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='DeathSDelano' timestamp='1311295534' post='5375821'] I forgot when was this Deck somewhat big again[/quote] Basically you just spam stuff like Card Trooper, Ryko, Valkyrian, Wicked Dreadrout, and what-not. And Dark Gaia OTK was all over the place back on Wc08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1311295052' post='5375795'] [img]http://gametechmods.com/../uploads/images/22421Icwutudidthar.jpg[/img] [/quote] [img]http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3610/dd8oxt1311298554.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1311295818' post='5375835'] [img]http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3610/dd8oxt1311298554.jpg[/img] [/quote] [img]http://gametechmods.com/../uploads/images/75274yarly.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Question. Dark Ruler Ha Des main decked in a build that uses both miracle fusion and dark calling - He shuts down so much - Is he viable? I don't like his attribute but god I love his effect. *kicks watt squirrel aside* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 [quote name='HaouJudai' timestamp='1311348058' post='5377464'] Question. Dark Ruler Ha Des main decked in a build that uses both miracle fusion and dark calling - He shuts down so much - Is he viable? I don't like his attribute but god I love his effect. *kicks watt squirrel aside* [/quote] E-Hero Escurido(w/e) is the DARK Omni Hero, and can be used with Miracle Fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 He is. We are getting him in a year I'm hearing. For now we have everything BUT dark attributes. He's still fuseable for Mali Fiend and Dark Gaia tho - His no SS clause could actually be an asset w/ reborn out there stealing malicious edges from my yard. Dark Ruler shuts down dandylion, glow up bulb and spore if he destroys OR if any evil hero fiend destroys one of them. I normally run Caius in that spot - but lately I'm leaning Dark Ruler because of tengu - Caius on tengu just doesn't cut it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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