Don Homer Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 but slippery slope guise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 BTW Darkplant, is there anyone not using a barrier statue as an avi? I want one >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='Ctrl+Alt+Win' timestamp='1313196391' post='5437674'] Not what I meant. I meant if a player is losing, this can help them get somewhat back into the game, thus giving them a chance to win. [/quote] If they are losing they don't deserve a second chance with one card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vough Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='HORUS' timestamp='1313197092' post='5437723'] If they are losing they don't deserve a second chance with one card. [/quote] the whole reason brain control got teh bannhammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Homer Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 but slippery slope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='Ctrl+Alt+Win' timestamp='1313197079' post='5437721'] BTW Darkplant, is there anyone not using a barrier statue as an avi? I want one >.> [/quote] i believe the Water one is unused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote] If they are losing they don't deserve a second chance with one card. [/quote] Point taken. [quote]i believe the Water one is unused[/quote] I'll use it unless I see someone who already had it >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Nothing Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 @1 it isn't a threat. You're either going to draw it early and hang on to it (it'll probably be discarded), or the opponent is going to revive spam their strong cards over and over again. It's a sad day when free revival is considered ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelinil Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 It /really/ shouldn't be able to grab enemy monsters. That's what makes it broken for me more than anything, I won a game today by dark hole giant trunade monster reborn and grabbed their boss monster and swinging for game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 But, guys, everyone knows its going to go to 2. Yuma has 2 copies in his deck =o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 I honestly don't care. Why? I don't run the card at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Why is it assumed that if a player is loosing it automatically makes it a bad player? This card helps a player recover a little in a Duel a lot more often than it is used to end it despite being equally usable for both actions. This is the type of card that a player usually saves until its needed. Its not actually a bad card for the game. Probably the Dark Magician of Chaos and Magician of Fate combos were Monster Reborn's best days. Some Decks even have more abusive revival nowadays (like Gottom's Emergency Call for X-Savers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='Ravenous Black' timestamp='1313204181' post='5438145'] But, guys, everyone knows its going to go to 2. Yuma has 2 copies in his deck =o [/quote] Nah. Yuma is just THAT MUCH COOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='King of Nothing' timestamp='1313197766' post='5437778'] @1 it isn't a threat. You're either going to draw it early and hang on to it (it'll probably be discarded), or the opponent is going to revive spam their strong cards over and over again. It's a sad day when free revival is considered ok... [/quote] Any independent card is just as much of a threat no matter how many copies of it you are allowed to run. Being at 1 doesn't change what it does when you have it. The examples you gave are bad. Costless, generic, either players graveyard revival is clearly overpowered, and no it isn't considered 'ok', especially in a format ridden with broken monsters. It should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='Superdoopertrooper' timestamp='1313234258' post='5438811'] Any independent card is just as much of a threat no matter how many copies of it you are allowed to run. Being at 1 doesn't change what it does when you have it. The examples you gave are bad. Costless, generic, either players graveyard revival is clearly overpowered, and no it isn't considered 'ok', especially in a format ridden with broken monsters. It should be banned. [/quote] The format is the problem. It's so screwed that having 1 Monster Reborn is not that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='Konoe A. Mercury' timestamp='1313234712' post='5438822'] It's so screwed that having 1 Monster Reborn is not that bad. [/quote] Regardless, it should be banned. Who do you arrest? A serial killer or the guy that murdered one person? Both. It's the lesser of both evils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted August 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='HORUS' timestamp='1313234925' post='5438824'] Regardless, it should be banned. Who do you arrest? A serial killer or the guy that murdered one person? Both. It's the lesser of both evils. [/quote] Following Konami logic, they'll try to just ban the 1 evil person But seriously, I don't think this will be banned. But let's see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='Konoe A. Mercury' timestamp='1313234712' post='5438822'] The format is the problem. It's so screwed that having 1 Monster Reborn is not that bad. [/quote] Yes the format is screwed, but Monster Reborn only makes it worse. It in itself is one of reasons the format is so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote] Yes the format is screwed, but Monster Reborn only makes it worse. It in itself is one of reasons the format is so bad [/quote] wat [color=#ffffff]Times like this when I really wish I had negs....[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Nothing Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='Superdoopertrooper' timestamp='1313239049' post='5438868'] Yes the format is screwed, but Monster Reborn only makes it worse. It in itself is one of reasons the format is so bad. [/quote] ...Personally, I think the heavy focus on archetypes and a few of the TCG exclusives are making the format bad, but I guess that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 [quote name='Superdoopertrooper' timestamp='1313239049' post='5438868'] Yes the format is screwed, but Monster Reborn only makes it worse. It in itself is one of reasons the format is so bad. [/quote] Yeah, no. Reborn's not a reason, at all, it's more EVIDENCE of how bad it is. Still banworthy, but NOT the problem, in any way, shape, or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Call is more oped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Homer Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 but slippery slope you guise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 Aww Ser learnt a new term. Good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Homer Posted August 13, 2011 Report Share Posted August 13, 2011 pfffft i knew about slippery slope when you were still suckling at your mother's teat so i've known about it for 2 weeks BUUUUUUUUUUURN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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