♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 [center][center][IMG]http://i52.tinypic.com/df8wif.jpg[/IMG][/center][/center] [center][center][size=2][i]2 Level 2 Monsters Once per turn: Detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower "Ice Barrier" monster from your Graveyard. During your Main Phase 2: You can send 1 "Ice Barrier" monster from your hand to the Graveyard; Attach 1 "Ice Barrier" monster in your Graveyard to this card.[/i][/size][/center][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groniack Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 The effect is good but maybe it is too much for a rank 2 monster. I suggest you to change it to rank 4. Then the effect and the ATK will be balanced. 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Too much utility, not enough "Ice Barrier". It's just okay =/... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 [quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1313371260' post='5443523'] Too much utility, not enough "Ice Barrier". It's just okay =/... [/quote] Because Brio, Dewloren, Gungnir, and Trish have anythign to do with the Ice Barrier sans name and relative brokeness. Effect 1: Use Preacher -> Revive Preacher -> Trololol Effect 2: Recycles its own materials with a ZombieMaster-esque effect? Me gusta The card is good if you get the 2 level 2s for it, and, with Preacher, shouldn't be a problem. Stats are a bit high, though. It's a Rank 2 2400 Beater for anything not IB. Lower it to 2000 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 And you missed my entire point. Not only that but I don't see the "Ice Barrier" Synchro's as part of the main monsters, as they do their own thing; not that they aren't good they're all amazing in their own right. Which is understandable, so naturally it is implied that I saw this as dull creatively not fitting in with their overall working as they are. Thus this card lost points on preference. All the effect tells me is: [font=courier new,courier,monospace][Lvl2 XyZ requirements][/font] [font=courier new,courier,monospace][Drop 1 XyZ material to SS level 4 or lower "Ice Barrier"]. [Drop 1 IB from hand to attach 1 IB monster from Graveyard to this card].[/font] Honestly that isn't bad at all, hell in the Pure IB build Byak made (and I still use to duel) this card is unreal. But I'd find it so much more impressive if it helped with the IB lock system they have going. So yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 [quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1313376628' post='5443775'] And you missed my entire point. Not only that but I don't see the "Ice Barrier" Synchro's as part of the main monsters, as they do their own thing; not that they aren't good they're all amazing in their own right. Which is understandable, so naturally it is implied that I saw this as dull creatively not fitting in with their overall working as they are. Thus this card lost points on preference. All the effect tells me is: [font=courier new,courier,monospace][Lvl2 XyZ requirements][/font] [font=courier new,courier,monospace][Drop 1 XyZ material to SS level 4 or lower "Ice Barrier"]. [Drop 1 IB from hand to attach 1 IB monster from Graveyard to this card].[/font] Honestly that isn't bad at all, hell in the Pure IB build Byak made (and I still use to duel) this card is unreal. But I'd find it so much more impressive if it helped with the IB lock system they have going. So yeah... [/quote] The card fits in as well as the IB Synchros do, and, as you said, is not part of the main monster base. IT's an Xyz. You didn't really make a point, you just said "Not enough IB support ,too much using IB" It's creative to find a way to use Preacher, directly, and recycle said Preacher for Shenanigans, and fits in perfectly into good Ice Barriers. That's all ANY Xyz effect will tell you. Look at Utopia. Remove Material - Negate Attack. Blows up when target of attack w/o materials. The lock system isn't that good. Byakk's build is good. This supports the good build, and it's not unorignal, considering no Xyz yet replenishes itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Lost points on preference... Not use... Why are we even having this discussion? lol And yeah it isn't that good, but I find it to be one of my favorite playstyles v_v, if only it were faster and maybe required less monsters... AHA! Card Idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Lol thanks guys (:. Yea, main idea was to use Preacher to Xyz Summon this and I figured with it's effect it would be easier to generate field presence with Ice Barriers which is needed. Wanted to give it fuel for it's effect with the dumping an IB for attach. But I see what your saying Josh, more creativity for casual fun play would have been nice. I might make some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I'm curious, LLD in the 1st part of the effect you have level specifications, yet the 2nd part you don't. Why so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1313431147' post='5445154'] I'm curious, LLD in the 1st part of the effect you have level specifications, yet the 2nd part you don't. Why so? [/quote] Because it's a Discard, and there's no need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 The card shouldn't be revival by Preacher and it shouldn't have 2400 atk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted August 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I'm changing ATK to 2100 later on when I have the chance. Revival by Preacher is something I don't feel a need to change atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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