Master Hyperion Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111013171842/yugioh/images/thumb/a/a6/Snoww%2CUnlightofDarkWorldSDGU-EN-SR-1E.jpg/300px-Snoww%2CUnlightofDarkWorldSDGU-EN-SR-1E.jpg[/img] [quote]If this card is [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Discard"]discarded[/url] to the [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard"]Graveyard[/url] by a [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect"]card effect[/url]: If it was [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Discard"]discarded[/url] from your hand to your Graveyard by an opponent's card effect, you can [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Target"]target[/url] 1 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster"]monster[/url] in your opponent's Graveyard; add 1 "[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_World"]Dark World[/url]" card from your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Deck"]Deck[/url] to your hand, then [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Summon"]Special Summon[/url] that target (if any) in [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Face-up"]face-up[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Defense_Position"]Defense Position[/url].[/quote] Holy f***ing hell did they do a piss-poor job at the new grammar on this card, because I can barely tell if you get the search effect even of in the first place when you discard it on your own. [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Snoww,_Unlight_of_Dark_World"]And Konami is aware that they screwed it up.[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Unlight... UNLIGHT. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Seriously... that name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 SHE HAS A MOUSTACHE That being said, amazing searcher, stupid grammar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Well at least this confirms what we thought with Latinum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 The card's OCG made me LOL. TBH, they should have just separated it into 2 separate effects, instead of mashing them together. Would be a lot easier to read, TBH. [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1318700163' post='5581160'] SHE HAS A MUSTACHE.[/quote] No. Its more like a face-plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted October 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1318700332' post='5581167'] TBH, they should have just separated it into 2 separate effects, instead of mashing them together. [/quote] Funny thing is Grapha's effect is actually somehow separated like that. =S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Seriously Why Grapha is the only understandable of those Dark Wolrd guys... *Don't even want to imagine what Celri's Text Looks Like* Also Come ON what was so wrong with the word Magician...>_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Yeah, I thought I knew what Snoww did... Then I read the card and I didn't know anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 should have kept old grammar at least than it would made sense :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endphase Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 LOL @ that name. Unlight...Seriously??? OCG sucks. One of the goals of the new OCG is making the effects more understandable, right? So why can I barely understand this card >< If I understand this effect correctly, it's a awesome searcher for DWs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 An small algorithm to understan what this card does If (This Card == Discarded){ Boolean Target = False if (Discarded == by your Opp){ Target = True } Add a DW from the to hand if (Target){ Special Summon } } O_O seriously they messed it up quite a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I already read other re-worded DW effects, and while it's awkward and I really don't like it much, I can follow it. "If this card is discarded by a card effect" is the Trigger/Condition. The second part up to the semi-colon is a secondary trigger. It applies if it was discarded by an opponent's effect. Most, if not all, DW secondary effects end up targeting something, so this fits with the "actions taken before resolution" section that a semi-colon indicates. Then the effect resolves, with an emphasis that it's fine if there is no action taken for the secondary step. So, when Snoww is discarded, it activates. It checks the secondary Trigger, and then proceeds to resolution regardless of whether the secondary Trigger applies. What I like about this OCG grammar is that it clarifies that the effect does not start two individual chains if the secondary effect applies, something that used to confuse me with the original DWs. I expect Celri to be worded something like this: "If this card is discarded to the Graveyard by a card effect: Special Summon this card from the Graveyard to the opponent's side of the field. If this card was Special Summoned by a "Dark World" effect, the controller of this card activates the following effect: Your opponent discards 1 card of their choice to the Graveyard." Celri is actually pretty simple. The confusion has always stemmed from "who discards?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Actually, Ceruli's wording is this: [url="http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/0/03/Ceruli%2CGuruofDarkWorldSDGU-EN-SR-1E.jpg"][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111013204538/yugioh/images/thumb/0/03/Ceruli%2CGuruofDarkWorldSDGU-EN-SR-1E.jpg/300px-Ceruli%2CGuruofDarkWorldSDGU-EN-SR-1E.jpg[/img][/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Close enough. I wrote that without checking the text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I figured as much. And your wording would be even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 It starts a new chain. That's important to note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 [quote name='-Venser el Transeúnte-' timestamp='1318702971' post='5581241'] O_O seriously they messed it up quite a bit [/quote] Sucky code is sucky. [CODE] If(snow.getStatus() == "DISCARDED"){ checkOwner(); if (!CheckOwner){ specialSummon(this.player.opponent.graveyard, D); snowwSearch(); }else snowwSearch(); } [/CODE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 [quote name='Expelsword - 輝き' timestamp='1318704623' post='5581293'] Sucky code is sucky. [CODE] If(snow.getStatus() == "DISCARDED"){ checkOwner(); if (!CheckOwner){ specialSummon(this.player.opponent.graveyard, D); snowwSearch(); }else snowwSearch(); } [/CODE] [/quote] I didn't know we can do that... Still mine was pseudo code... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 [quote name='-Venser el Transeúnte-' timestamp='1318706203' post='5581341'] I didn't know we can do that... Still mine was pseudo code... [/quote] It's next to Quote. I think it's kind of useless on this site except maybe.... [CODE] If I make it long enough it will scroll. [/CODE] EDIT: no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 [CODE] 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private int number; private boolean id; private char character; public Class (){ number = 0; id = true; character = a; } [/CODE] Oh yeah interesting...XD Thought I wonder what language is using coz stuff it mark in color is different from what I'm used to...XD Anyways...I sill complain why Grapha is the only one of this to be worded differently Oh and that they made the clarifications on [s]Celri[/s]Ceruli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 It looks like you're using JAVA maybe they like Flash, I dunno what it could be. As the last word on the subject, I believe you need to declare char as character = [b]'[/b]a[b]'[/b]; Now, back to this card, it's overpowered like Infernity Archfiend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I think the main reason why Grapha is worded differently is because unlike some other DW effects, Grapha's secondary effect affects the hand, and therefore it only occurs at resolution. No targeting or anything like that. Snoww affects the Graveyard. Therefore if it was discarded by an opponent's effect, it must target the chosen monster before the effect's resolution. Goldd affects targeted cards on the field. It also must target before resolution. I expect Sillva to also be worded like Grapha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 owowow my brain It took me a half-dozen tries to understand that, [i]and I already know what Snoww does!!!!![/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Is it bad that I understood it on the first try without remembering what the card does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I only got confused with Latinum, then used my understanding of Latinum for the rest of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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