Tentacruel Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gGsmvv44eQ Continued from a status. Discuss your opinions on torture and interrogation. I'm personally against it. Also, please keep any lolfauxnews to yourself. That's a whole different discussion people. To keep this thread from flopping into a mess of spam, let's keep it in the context of military/government interrogation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter. Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 military interrogation is sometimes necessary to get some information out of someone who won't open their traps on their own. but i believe that torture goes too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niv-Mizzet Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Obligatory Guantanamo mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I have newfound respect for that man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I feel that its alright during such times, but using it as a primary basis of information is retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRenji Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I believe since we're in the modern age, we should now that torture is inhumane. Interrogation is fine, but torture is just plain criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 depends on the ethics usually you're not supposed to, but I think there is one exception to this rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragavan.g43 Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 interrogating the suspect is good but in the name of interrogation torturing the people is not at all good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 no, but a lot of people still feel it's a much faster way to get the right info you want out of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 You people are missing the flaw with using torture during interrogation. Sure, it can be used against terrorists, but there is the chance that they might catch an innocent person for whatever reason (military and the government can f*** up, too), torture said person, and said person ends up confessing to whatever the interrogators were questioning him / her about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Torturing is wrong... And I love Jesse Ventura, he is my hero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 [quote name='Izaya Orihara' timestamp='1321721207' post='5652652'] Torturing is wrong... And I love Jesse Ventura, he is my hero! [/quote] This Also, he (Jesse Ventura) has a point all that sort of torturing does is allow the person doing the torturing to get what they want to hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 [quote name='Itachi V. Remo' timestamp='1321721378' post='5652657'] This Also, he (Jesse Ventura) has a point all that sort of torturing does is allow the person doing the torturing to get what they want to hear [/quote] Like the salem witch trials? Or the First and Second Red Scare's? Everyone accuses the other one of terrorism for personal gain and the whole thing blows up out of proportions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 [quote name='Itachi V. Remo' timestamp='1321721378' post='5652657'] This Also, he (Jesse Ventura) has a point all that sort of torturing does is allow the person doing the torturing to get what they want to hear [/quote] So sometimes they falsely confess, you're saying they still never speak the truth anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321723969' post='5652762'] So sometimes they falsely confess, you're saying they still never speak the truth anyway [/quote] That's not what he was saying at all man. ._. He was saying that people will confess to whatever they've been accused of to not be tortured anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 [quote name='Æther Royce' timestamp='1321725371' post='5652813'] That's not what he was saying at all man. ._. He was saying that people will confess to whatever they've been accused of to not be tortured anymore. [/quote] And that means nothing, Xander. There's two things you fail to factor in. 1. Once you tell your torturer that, you're at the guy's mercy. He may choose to keep torturing you for the hell of it. 2. Even if your torturer will truly keep his word, how's he supposed to know you've really told him everything you know? To that extent, he'll keep the torture going until he's firmly convinced himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321751767' post='5654076'] And that means nothing, Xander. There's two things you fail to factor in. 1. Once you tell your torturer that, you're at the guy's mercy. He may choose to keep torturing you for the hell of it. 2. Even if your torturer will truly keep his word, how's he supposed to know you've really told him everything you know? To that extent, he'll keep the torture going until he's firmly convinced himself. [/quote] Don't those points just completely go against your entire argument of why torturing was somewhat acceptable? Interrogation I'm perfectly fine with, as long as they have the correct people doing the job. Everyone knows the kind of person that I should be talking about, the people who get in your head really easily and start messing with you until you spill whatever the hell they want. Torture is a big no no. The physical injuries you can get from torture can often be permanent and, even if said person is guilty or holding the information you would like to acquire, we are all welcome to rights as we are all human beings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321751767' post='5654076'] And that means nothing, Xander. There's two things you fail to factor in. 1. Once you tell your torturer that, you're at the guy's mercy. He may choose to keep torturing you for the hell of it. 2. Even if your torturer will truly keep his word, how's he supposed to know you've really told him everything you know? To that extent, he'll keep the torture going until he's firmly convinced himself. [/quote] So all in all you just make another 2 points on why torture is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 [quote name='Twilight Sparkle' timestamp='1321755707' post='5654191'] So all in all you just make another 2 points on why torture is bad. [/quote] exactly, but people still do it thinking that it will work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321757411' post='5654232'] exactly, but people still do it thinking that it will work [/quote] Then you do realize you are agreeing with the people you've been quoting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 look the point I'm saying is that while torture isn't a good thing, people continue to believe in its effectiveness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smear Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 This topic is perfectly fine for a children's forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yang Xiao-Long Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 [quote name='Łyra' timestamp='1321769657' post='5654516'] This topic is perfectly fine for a children's forum. [/quote] The children's forum is torture though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 [quote name='Łyra' timestamp='1321769657' post='5654516'] This topic is perfectly fine for a children's forum. [/quote] oh don't tell me you've never seen torture on a single anime before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smear Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321772075' post='5654553'] oh don't tell me you've never seen torture on a single anime before [/quote] Not every anime is for children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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