synchro

[kevin7653]

[img]http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6280/218546.jpg[/img]give me your opinion on playbility,ocg,effect,pic,other such stuff

[·Toot]

You have caps errors
OCG Fix:
You can tribute 1 Machine- or Dragon-Type monster: Destroy 1 monster on your opponent's side of the field.

I put "You can" at the beginning because it sounds like the effect isn't optional... if this was the only monster you had, you would have to tribute it...
Its kinda Up'ed for its level... try adding another effect to make it a little better.

[Welche the crab]

First thing to say is that you should probably capitalise the first letter of each word in the name unless there is a reason you want it to look like it does. Also capitalize Machine for it's type.

Now onto the effect. Requiring a total of synchro material monsters is very tricky to pull off so I think the 4000 ATK is actually a quite reasonable amount seeing as you have to -4 yourself to get this out. The effect itself doesn't really look like it would do much for you because you cleared the field to Summon this, but it looks like a balanced effect (Basically a weaker version of Scrap Dragon).

You want to know about playability? I don't think this would be used much because of the difficulty to bring it out but I do think decks that focused on this could be quite effective. I dont wanna mention OCG and the pic for different reasons. I fail at OCG, and you didn't make the pic.

[ragnarok1945]

meh effect, simply eye for an eye concept, nothing more

however it is still considered OPed because you can destroy any of your opponent's monster

while tributing ANY dragon or machine type monster on your end

there's no specifics, which makes the effect way too easy to pull off

[~British Soul~]

let's see here...
First of all, it seems really really difficult to get out, though i do like how you made it level 11 since there aren't many level 1s out there. Secondly the picture, there's not much to comment on here apart from the fact that it does fit the name. Which brings me to my third point, the name 1. you didn't capitalized the words and 2. you seem to have mis-spelt field. Now onto playability, it doesn't seem that playable to be honest because you need to control 5 monsters, but at least it is generic, though i would rather use my 5 monsters for something else rather than -4 myself. Also its effect is a tad weak to be honest, Scrap Dragon does it better and it would've been nice if you thrown in another effect to at least make it more usable.

5/10

[groniack]

As mentioned before you missed some capitalizations. Effect is boring and weak. You should add another effect that protects the card. As it is now it isn't worth to spend 5 monsters to summon it.

[david ice]

[quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1322168398' post='5663034']
meh effect, simply eye for an eye concept, nothing more

however it is still considered OPed because you can destroy any of your opponent's monster

while tributing ANY dragon or machine type monster on your end

there's no specifics, which makes the effect way too easy to pull off
[/quote]
what about scrap dragon it can destroy any card on your opponents side if thefield,and its kinda a waste to summon takes 5 monsters and the other guy can just solemn it.the pic's nice thou

[ragnarok1945]

that's just the point of it all

some dragon monsters can be really hard to pull out

but others can be relatively easy, that's why there's a need for the SPECIFICATION requirement

[kevin7653]

try this on for size
[img]http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6280/218546.jpg[/img]
Lore:1 or more tuners + 2 or more non tuner monsters

tribute a machine or dragon type monster from your side of the field and destroy a monster on your opponents side of the field.When this card is destroyed you may Special Summon a tuner card from your graveyard.

[ragnarok1945]

that's even worse

with the tuner from the graveyard onto the field it's easy pickings for another synchro summoning, too easy

and I still see no specifications or anything like that

[kevin7653]

This?
2 or more tuners + 3 or more non tuner monsters

Tribute a machine or dragon type monster from your side of the field and destroy a monster on your opponents side of the field.When this card is destroyed you may Special Summon a tuner card from your graveyard once per turn in your stndby phase by paying 700 life points.

[ragnarok1945]

it's the 1st sentence

you have to be more specific on the machine or dragon types, like a level or attribute specification or something

[kevin7653]

but is the effect itself better?

[ragnarok1945]

the effect is still so-so

[kevin7653]

what if i added the effect trhat when a spell card is activated the person who activated takes 300 life poiint damage or this card gains 400 atk?

[ragnarok1945]

well 300 burn is almost nothing these days

[Resident Fascist]

2 Tuners + 3 or more nontuners? Why would I -4 myself when I can go trish and get some advantage back immediately?

[kevin7653]

wait what look at the updated version

[quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1322327012' post='5666948']
well 300 burn is almost nothing these days
[/quote]600?

[Sander]

[quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1322177524' post='5663437']
and I still see no specifications or anything like that
[/quote]

And why does this even need any specifications? Seriously, he's trying to make the effect be better, and you're suggesting to give the card specifications on what it can Tribute now? Seriously, that's bad feedback right there. Tributing a Machine or a Dragon-Type monster should be specific enough already.

Seriously, even with 1 tuner and 2 or more non-Tuner monsters, why would you Summon it? Scrap Dragon is easier to Summon and can do the job way better, even if it's once per turn. The fact is that it can destroy anything you control to destroy anything your opponent controls, meaning it's not as specific as this card is already.

So yeah, do not listen to ragnarok about making the cost of this card even more specific.

[kevin7653]

[img]http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6280/218546.jpg[/img]better? i just want a ocg check

[Welche the crab]

Mind posting the lore? It's a challenge to read but from what I see the materials needed are still a total of 5. I think no one has yet managed to impress upon you just how much that is. A level 11 divided among 5 monsters means you need basically 5 level 2-3 monsters on the field which is no small feet. In my opinion I would make the non-tuner be Machine Type and make the total number be 1 Tuner, 2 Non-Tuners.

[kevin7653]

1 or more tuners + 2 or more non tuner monsters

Tribute a machine or dragon type monster from your side of the field and destroy a monster on your opponents side of the field.When this card is destroyed you may Special Summon a tuner card from your graveyard once per turn in your standby phase by paying 700 life points.When a spell card is activated while this card is on the field this card gains 300 ATK
and the person who activated the spell card loses 600 life points.

[ragnarok1945]

all right for the lore

we'll skip the OCG matters and just concentrate on the effects

it's easy for monster destruction, so that's good

the 300 atk gain isn't really much, but you DID allow it to be permanent, so it's still a boon nonetheless

700 LP pay, that's meh, don't really know just WHAT to make of that part

[crystalfeet]

Lv 11, 2t +3n-t no matter how i look at it its too hard to summon. Let's see what some people might try:
They will get spore(summoned wit dandy lv 4) and bud, then they will use dandy for 2 tokens, then you need a lv 4 monster as well.
Sounds possible so not too shabby, but we need dragons and machines to use the effect so maybe difficult.
7/10 overall.

Nice pic btw

[kevin7653]

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