evilfusion Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Even disregarding loops, Brio's ability to set up the Grave, reuse cards on the field, and disrupt the opponent's field for a minute cost makes it extremely powerful, and any Deck with Tuners could run it. The only reason it probably wont be banned is because the OCG revoked priority while the TCG continues to employ it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Alright then, ban that smelly Brionac. But don't you guys think it's strange that, despite millions of different loops it helps setting up, none of the top32 dekcs of previous YCSs relied on said loops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='LarryCotter' timestamp='1322952333' post='5684017'] Alright then, ban that smelly Brionac. But don't you guys think it's strange that, despite millions of different loops it helps setting up, none of the top32 dekcs of previous YCSs relied on said loops? [/quote] Even disregarding the loops, Brio deserves a ban. The loops are just evidence against it. Almost no deck that tops relies on a loop, FrogFTK notwithstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='LarryCotter' timestamp='1322952333' post='5684017'] Alright then, ban that smelly Brionac. But don't you guys think it's strange that, despite millions of different loops it helps setting up, none of the top32 dekcs of previous YCSs relied on said loops? [/quote] >Addressed that they were bad in my post NOT AT ALL Loops are bad for the game, no matter what =/ I FTK'd because someone used Maxx "C" on my Fableds, and I used the loop. Brionac is also effing broken outside of loops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='LarryCotter' timestamp='1322952333' post='5684017'] Alright then, ban that smelly Brionac. But don't you guys think it's strange that, despite millions of different loops it helps setting up, none of the top32 dekcs of previous YCSs relied on said loops? [/quote] Except for the years Dewloren/Brionac loops topped. Those happened quite frequently. Also, despite that, name to me five different kinds of decks decks that have topped YCM since Brionac's release that didn't use it. I dare you. Just try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 next format they should they should try putting goyo at 1 and brionac at 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 [quote name='Dog King' timestamp='1322958658' post='5684302'] next format they should they should try putting goyo at 1 and brionac at 0 [/quote] THIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 [quote name='Dog King' timestamp='1322958658' post='5684302'] next format they should they should try putting goyo at 1 and brionac at 0 [/quote] How about bring Time Seal @1+? Then all decks can lower consistency of the other player by a good amount. [quote name='Shard' timestamp='1322958758' post='5684303'] THIS [/quote] Requesting Ban *shot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 [quote name='Koloktos' timestamp='1322963063' post='5684456']Requesting Ban *shot* [/quote] Goyo is needed in this format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant - FEAR' timestamp='1322971079' post='5684747'] Goyo is needed in this format. [/quote] He was saying it to Shard riding Dog King, not to Goyo =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Shard was merely trying to +1 off of Dog King which is why I requested. However, a generic Level 6 Synchro that is a walking battle-ready snatch steal isn't exactly good for the game either. But, I suppose that Loop Engine > Walking Snatch Steal this format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Xyz makes Goyo even more powerful. Goyo's not coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1322972357' post='5684768'] Xyz makes Goyo even more powerful. Goyo's not coming back. [/quote] How does Xyz make Goyo powerful? Even if I kill the opp's random Xyz with Goyo, it doesn't get its materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant - FEAR' timestamp='1322973528' post='5684807'] How does Xyz make Goyo powerful? Even if I kill the opp's random Xyz with Goyo, it doesn't get its materials. [/quote] I think what he means is that you can use your opponent's monsters for Xyz materials with Goyo, which is actually more effective than Synchroing using your opponent's monster because your opponent doesn't get that monster back immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant - FEAR' timestamp='1322973528' post='5684807'] How does Xyz make Goyo powerful? Even if I kill the opp's random Xyz with Goyo, it doesn't get its materials. [/quote] Not stealing Xyz themselves. Stealing monsters to USE for Xyz. Unlike Synchros, the monsters stolen dont have to be Tuners/Non-Tuners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1322974226' post='5684821'] Not stealing Xyz themselves. Stealing monsters to USE for Xyz. Unlike Synchros, the monsters stolen dont have to be Tuners/Non-Tuners. [/quote] I don't mean to +1 intentionally here, but I believe that I just stated what you stated above (Save for the Tuner/Non-Tuner clause). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 ...I've regained my determination to build an Infernity deck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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