Brandon Michael Geren Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 And realized that this is actually an interesting combo. [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081106233923/yugioh/images/4/4a/IronChainDragonCSOC-EN-R-1E.jpg[/img] So I went hurr hurr monk armageddon knight dump hornet make lavalval chain stack dragonfly. He Synchs for this and pushes my s*** in, eventually winning because of it. I was tight Oh also it's better than Orient Dragon because your opponent doesn't always have a synchro out you dumbasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Did he deck you out or just wipe all your life points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1323738477' post='5703141'] Did he deck you out or just wipe all your life points? [/quote] He milled the topdeck RobotBowtie searched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 obviously this guy doesn't understand inzektors or card advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 There is no "combo". You just played terribly. On-topic: Iron Chain Dragon's mill effect makes it a liability much more often then the few times it'll help. It's not worth running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 dude you obsviously suck if you lost to this. just summon a marshmallon and use you deckout cards to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I actually used to say that Iron Chain is amazing this format. With Pot of Avarice at 1, putting monsters in the Graveyard isn't as big a deal, and milling S/Ts is just too wonderful. Even with Chaos and BLS around, the random mills are rarely appreciated to non-LS players. Plants usually don't care much, either. 2500 ATK is excellent. But ultimately, most Extra Decks have no use for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1323738611' post='5703146'] There is no "combo". You just played terribly. On-topic: Iron Chain Dragon's mill effect makes it a liability much more often then the few times it'll help. It's not worth running. [/quote] Are you f***ing retarded? Monk into Armageddon Knight to send Hornet and get Chain so you can stack Dragonfly is a consistency-adding play that can't be done wrong or right :s Like, how was I supposed to know he would go for Iron Chain and mill my Dragonfly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1323738840' post='5703151'] Are you f***ing retarded? Monk into Armageddon Knight to send Hornet and get Chain so you can stack Dragonfly is a consistency-adding play that can't be done wrong or right :s Like, how was I supposed to know he would go for Iron Chain and mill my Dragonfly? [/quote] She said Iron Chain is terrible, not Lavalval Chain but I read it the same as you at first. [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1323738611' post='5703146'] There is no "combo". You just played terribly. On-topic: Iron Chain Dragon's mill effect makes it a liability much more often then the few times it'll help. It's not worth running. [/quote] Which is why decks with Debris ran it before Orient existed, right? And why I've seen it used since? Summoner Monk -> Arma -> Drop Hornet -> Chain -> Dragonfly is a combo, are you blind? And if you think most things actually like mill as much anymore, wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I run 1 in Gallis for Debris for it's ATK in case I can't get a Level 3 for Rose, and Orient is useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Since I want to post in this thread, Debris makes this a lot and for a generic synchro it is cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Still better than Orient Dragon :s guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Orient Dragon's bad really. Anything that can be solved with Brionac or random generic removal can be solved without Orient. Would be staple if it had 2800 ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1323738840' post='5703151'] Are you f***ing retarded? Monk into Armageddon Knight to send Hornet and get Chain so you can stack Dragonfly is a consistency-adding play that [b]can't be done wrong[/b] [b]or right[/b] :s Like, how was I supposed to know he would go for Iron Chain and mill my Dragonfly? [/quote] It is 3:30 in the morning. I don't understand this. If you're saying it can't be done wrong I think having me use the deck would be a good way to make sure. I used infernities and lightsworns incorrectly when I first tried using a deck that wasn't burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1323740010' post='5703198'] It is 3:30 in the morning. I don't understand this. If you're saying it can't be done wrong I think having me use the deck would be a good way to make sure. I used infernities and lightsworns incorrectly when I first tried using a deck that wasn't burn. [/quote] You can't get it wrong. It just happens. There are no options to doing that combo. It's basically: remember that, do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1323740010' post='5703198'] It is 3:30 in the morning. I don't understand this. If you're saying it can't be done wrong I think having me use the deck would be a good way to make sure. I used infernities and lightsworns incorrectly when I first tried using a deck that wasn't burn. [/quote] I think he means the single combo, not the deck. All decks can be done wrong to some extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted December 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1323740010' post='5703198'] It is 3:30 in the morning. [/quote] Go to bed. [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1323740010' post='5703198'] I don't understand this. [/quote] I meant that this particular combo isn't being bad or being good. It's just making a play. Like, there's a wrong time to do it and stuff, but I wasn't doing it at the wrong time. I had no other options... Just a Monk and a Spell in hand, what the f*** else do you want me to do? [quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1323740010' post='5703198'] If you're saying it can't be done wrong I think having me use the deck would be a good way to make sure. I used infernities and lightsworns incorrectly when I first tried using a deck that wasn't burn. [/quote] If you play those decks wrong you'll play this wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1323738840' post='5703151'] Are you f***ing retarded? Monk into Armageddon Knight to send Hornet and get Chain so you can stack Dragonfly is a consistency-adding play that can't be done wrong or right :s Like, how was I supposed to know he would go for Iron Chain and mill my Dragonfly? [/quote] And if that one move completely leveled your entire deck to the point that you could not recover you must have been running a god awful deck, or you must be a god awful duelist. Possibly both. [quote]Which is why decks with Debris ran it before Orient existed, right?[/quote] Your argument is that old decks ran shittier cards? Cool, are we gonna see an influx of topics about Mechanical Chaser and Axe of Despair now? "Decks with monsters ran Mechanical Chaser before Don Zaloog existed, right?" [quote]And why I've seen it used since? Summoner Monk -> Arma -> Drop Hornet -> Chain -> Dragonfly is a combo, are you blind?[/quote] The topic implied that "summon Iron Chain" was the combo. If that's what he's implying is the focus of his topic, he prolly should have posted that in his title, as opposed to Iron Chain Dragon. [quote]And if you think most things actually like mill as much anymore, wtf [/quote] Bad players runnin' bad decks. If a slight bit of mill is enough to make you lose the game, you deserve to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1323743019' post='5703288'] And if that one move completely leveled your entire deck to the point that you could not recover you must have been running a god awful deck, or you must be a god awful duelist. Possibly both.[/quote] Funny thing is, Pika, DN tends to "magically" stack copies of cards all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1323743019' post='5703288'] And if that one move completely leveled your entire deck to the point that you could not recover you must have been running a god awful deck, or you must be a god awful duelist. Possibly both. [/quote] Or the fact that he needed that Dragonfly, and he just didn't draw into another one, or it got milled by said dragon. There are lots of reasons he could have lost without either of the above being true ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1323743102' post='5703290'] Or the fact that he needed that Dragonfly, and he just didn't draw into another one, or it got milled by said dragon.[/quote] More or less, Iron Chain comes out of nowhere and can wreck plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1323743102' post='5703290'] Or the fact that he needed that Dragonfly, and he just didn't draw into another one, or it got milled by said dragon. There are lots of reasons he could have lost without either of the above being true ._. [/quote] If his entire deck is reliant on the use of one card, he deserves to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 do you know how inzectors run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I can't say I've looked much into decktypes recently, but if it's a decktype that is entirely reliant on one card to make it work then, lol. Learn to have back up strategies kids. Then you won't lose so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1323743483' post='5703306'] If his entire deck is reliant on the use of one card, he deserves to lose. [/quote] If you don't know the game, you don't deserve to mod the section, but that's yet to change. Inzektors rely on Dragonfly and Hornet. One of which likes to be in the grave, the other does not. Summoner Monk ->Arma Knightis used as a way to get said Dragonfly and Hornet more quickly, leading to quicker slaughter. Other cards can be used to aid in this process as well. Inzektors also have other cards they can use, such as Dimensional Fissure, but the deck is still mostly low level monsters that are never gonna really run over anything, save rare occasions. They are not 100% out of water without Damsel, but she helps a LOT. And if they have beaters out, it's too late for D-Fissure to help as much. He lost because of an out of the blue Iron Chain Dragon, which you yourself called bad. So, by your logic, he lost because of a bad tech. Thus, Inzektors are bad. The deck isn't bad, and from what I've heard the player isn't that bad either. Since both of those options are out, there's the option of bad hand (Given what happened), DN's "magical stacking", and other such issues. Just because a deck does not perform perfectly 100% of the time does not mean it's bad. And, to end it, yfw Inzektors are Tier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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