Althemia Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1324074235' post='5711456'] Do I give a damn about this format? Nope. Am I making cards to go with this format alone? Hahahahahah no. But okay, here you go: Mirror Force Dimensional Prison Battle Fader Book of moon etc etc. [/quote] Have fun with your surprise. You damn well earned it for being arrogant in a position in which you had no right to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1324074235' post='5711456'] Do I give a damn about this format? Nope. Am I making cards to go with this format alone? Hahahahahah no. But okay, here you go: [/quote] Then here's your surprise. [u][b][color=#800080]Mod Punishment: Arrogant and Stubborn Member Backstab[/color][/b][/u] Do not be arrogant enough to pull me off of whatever I'm doing. [color=#000000]Your card is broken. It's not the fact that it's easily counterable, it's the fact that what it does if it isn't. By that logic no card is broken at all, since there are a lot of archetype specific Solemn Judgments. But that isn't the case NOW IS IT? You have a very large beater that can be pulled by playing stupidly, and can destroy when played intelligently. This card is broken, and like the Gorz argument it is very bad card design. [/color] [color=#000000]So as punishment for your ongoing arrogance and annoying the living hell out of me. Topic stickied, changed and turned into a discussion topic.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Apparently, Shooting Quasar Dragon is harder to summon than Koitsu [/thread] I really have no idea how to fix this card if there's so much arrogance. Edit: Oh, that's cool Josh :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 LOL Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted December 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='Æther Royce' timestamp='1324073775' post='5711432'] So you're saying that if you can counter an attack, this card is automatically balanced? Seriously, just leave RC, please. D: [/quote] I said this can be very easily destroyed, EVEN MORE THAN MOST MONSTERS OF THE SAME ATK, yet it still is able to give you a decent amount of advantage. And when SS'd, it's basically nothing but a 2600 ATK monster that does nothing. And oh, I'm sorry I'm actually making ORIGINAL and interesting cards, better leave RC to people who can't make a card that's actually not a cheap rip off of something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1324074779' post='5711466'] And oh, I'm sorry I'm actually making ORIGINAL and interesting cards, [/quote] Original =/= good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1324074779' post='5711466'] And oh, I'm sorry I'm actually making ORIGINAL and interesting cards, better leave RC to people who can't make a card that's actually not a cheap rip off of something else. [/quote] It's not that. It's that you're not taking criticism, you're being too arrogant in order to take GOOD ADVICE. Instead, you're all like "SCREW THE FORMAT LET'S MAKE AN AMAZING BEATER FOR NO REASON WHICH IS BROKE HERP DERP." Original doesn't always automatically mean good card design. Now brush up before you play with the big dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1324074779' post='5711466'] I said this can be very easily destroyed, EVEN MORE THAN MOST MONSTERS OF THE SAME ATK, yet it still is able to give you a decent amount of advantage. And when SS'd, it's basically nothing but a 2600 ATK monster that does nothing. And oh, I'm sorry I'm actually making ORIGINAL and interesting cards, better leave RC to people who can't make a card that's actually not a cheap rip off of something else. [/quote] > Does nothing > Has 2600 ATK hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rest in Piss YCMaker Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 I want to just say this made me laugh so much reading this. The card is so broken and he [s]can't [/s]won't just take it. Thank you everyone for [s]brightening[/s] making my day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted December 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='-Tsubaki-' timestamp='1324074866' post='5711470'] It's not that. It's that you're not taking criticism, you're being too arrogant in order to take GOOD ADVICE. Instead, you're all like "SCREW THE FORMAT LET'S MAKE AN AMAZING BEATER FOR NO REASON WHICH IS BROKE HERP DERP." Original doesn't always automatically mean good. Now brush up before you play with the big dogs. [/quote] I'm sorry "big dog" but does it say somewhere in the RC rules I have to make a card that has to go well in the current format? I don't think it does. I'm not even talking about this card anymore. RC is for Realistic cards. And until someone tells me how this is bad, aside from the stupidly vague "bad card design" or "broken" arguments, I'm not backing down. [b]What combo exactly could abuse this so incredibly much that it'd make it super bad for the game?[/b] When someone gives me a good reason, I'll agree and let this go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1324075410' post='5711489'] And until someone tells me how this is bad, aside from the stupidly vague "bad card design" or "broken" arguments, I'm not backing down. [b]What combo exactly could abuse this so incredibly much that it'd make it super bad for the game?[/b] [/quote] That's the problem. It doesn't have broken combos, it's a free beater for no cost. Equip to the opponent's boss monster, negate effect and reduce to 0, and no matter how they remove that boss monster you get a free beater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted December 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='TheGreatEnguin' timestamp='1324075405' post='5711488'] I want to just say this made me laugh so much reading this. The card is so broken and he [s]can't [/s]won't just take it. Thank you everyone for [s]brightening[/s] making my day. [/quote] Coming from the guy who makes the most stupidly useless or overpowered cards out there. I had a good laugh at all your RC threads buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1324075410' post='5711489'] [b]What combo exactly could abuse this so incredibly much that it'd make it super bad for the game?[/b] [/quote] <Equip this to your opponent's Quasar. <Laugh your ass off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1324075513' post='5711494'] Coming from the guy who makes the most stupidly useless or overpowered cards out there. I had a good laugh at all your RC threads buddy. [/quote]I agree with this, just not for the person he is laughing at. I don't check out Enguin's cards. BUT your cards and every post you make is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1324075410' post='5711489'] I'm sorry "big dog" but does it say somewhere in the RC rules I have to make a card that has to go well in the current format? I don't think it does. I'm not even talking about this card anymore. RC is for Realistic cards. [/quote] Kay... Now you've not only annoyed me, you've flat out ticked me off. The big dog you're barking at now is me. You know, Lead Custom Cards Moderator? Yeah now listen up. There is nothing in the rules for that, nor will there ever be much to the dismay of many for equally valid reasons. However, what is bothersome is when you darn near blatantly spam your own topic with arrogance, fail to understand the answers to your own question, insult many members who defend their reasoning that came into place FROM YOU ASKING THEM. So you didn't break RC rules, you broke a rule that's in place for all of Custom Cards and YCM. EDIT: Unbanned. But I will delete any reply you make in any topic until you reply to me. This includes on the rest of the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1324075410' post='5711489'] I'm sorry "big dog" but does it say somewhere in the RC rules I have to make a card that has to go well in the current format? I don't think it does. I'm not even talking about this card anymore. RC is for Realistic cards. And until someone tells me how this is bad, aside from the stupidly vague "bad card design" or "broken" arguments, I'm not backing down. [b]What combo exactly could abuse this so incredibly much that it'd make it super bad for the game?[/b] When someone gives me a good reason, I'll agree and let this go. [/quote] Realistic Cards is defined by cards that 'would be suitable in the game state it was designed for." Unless you can give a specific game state this was designed for, please remove yourself. Gorz doesn't have a combo particularly. It's still Limited. This does though. Equip this > Summon Naga > Summon Vaskii (+0) > Summon this (+1) Makes Reptiliannes unnecessarily good. [b][u]Why is it bad card design?[/u][/b] 1. It is unoriginal. At the end of the day, taking from the amount of time you spent comparing this to Gorz, I assume it's unoriginal. Not to mention it's basically a small Fiendish Chain, but broken. 2. On a large scale, where would this fit into a game. I could see this splashed everywhere. That's bad design. Cards have to be relevant on such a scale that they promote the usage of certain things and totally ignore others. Lastly, [b]good design happens in an environment[/b], not as an individual card. *looks at new replies* I hope during your time away, you have a good time reading some MtG design articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rest in Piss YCMaker Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1324075513' post='5711494'] Coming from the guy who makes the most stupidly useless or overpowered cards out there. I had a good laugh at all your RC threads buddy. [/quote] Really? All my cards are overpowered or useless? My one stupid thread comes back to haunt me. Have you [i]actually[/i] looked at them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='TheGreatEnguin' timestamp='1324076055' post='5711515'] Really? All my cards are overpowered or useless? My one stupid thread comes back to haunt me. Have you [i]actually[/i] looked at them? [/quote] Your latest card was actually amazing <3. So good on you, and I decided on something better. Gandorator is unbanned but he must reply to my post(s) at him. And every other will be deleted until such reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth the Sorceror Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1324073161' post='5711409'] > Implying Gorz or every instant beatstick "out of nowhere" is bad card design. > This can be MST'd/ Heavy Storm'd/ any generic spell destruction would do etc. even a Book of moon on the equipped monster would destroy mine. > THIS IS A NOMI > To even SS it you need to destroy a monster your opponent controls, and that can be easily stopped. it doesn't do anything "instantly" it requires AN ATTACK. Which, wait...NO WAY!! IT CAN BE COUNTERED?!??! Yeah. As weird as it sounds, it can. And since when is a 2600 ATK Nomi that once SS'd is basically a Normal Monster- a big deal? [/quote] I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1324074235' post='5711456'] Mirror Force Dimensional Prison Battle Fader Book of moon etc etc. [/quote] >BATTLE FADER >WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ATTACKING A MONSTER >WTF ARE YOU THINKING OT: Okay, let's release this. Simulation go. Opp: Summon *Insert something*, end turn. You: Activate *Insert this card's name* on that *Insert summoned monster*, attack. You: SS-es 2600 beatstick. So technically, here you just did this: -Kill an opponent's monster -Inflict the same damage as attacking directly -AND also summon a 2600 beatstick. TOTALLY. ACCEPTABLE. EDIT: Icy? Or whoever edited the rest of my post out. But it's not the type of thing I like saying (too soft), so I'll just delete it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quest Zero Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 Wow. I don't even think I have to say anything more. I mean, that card makes sweet love with everything. And countered? In most cases, you'll see this come out before you can even draw MST. Even before you can get a turn. This card is spammable like crazy, especially with Graveyard revival supports. Destroy it? Big whoop. Add back to hand with a card, and I'm back in the game. 2600 ATK? Seriously? A mere +300 ATK boost from ANYTHING can let you take out most threats. Counter all you want. I don't care. Make a deck with this and supports for it, and you can't even touch me. This card stinks. Accept it and learn from your mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth the Sorceror Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 I think this card is great. You have to use cards specifically for it to make it that bad. I mean look at most Structure deck big guys. They're a bit much but you must get specific cards for them.(ex.Master Hyperion & Dragunity Arma Leyvaten) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 [quote name='Seth the Sorceror' timestamp='1324148844' post='5712906']. You have to use cards specifically for it to make it that bad. [/quote] [img]http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvapuoHCFI1qmkfkoo6_250.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth the Sorceror Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 [quote name='Icyblue' timestamp='1324150566' post='5712972'] [img]http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvapuoHCFI1qmkfkoo6_250.gif[/img] [/quote] What!!?? is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 [quote name='Seth the Sorceror' timestamp='1324151097' post='5712987'] What!!?? is that? [/quote] [center][img]http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luyi3mTCd61qf2hrho1_250.jpg[/img][/center] [center]Girl better start defendin himself or I'ma start trippin. She ain't makin sense an I'm statin' ta snap. Why you think that it needs things to do it's thing?[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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