RAEGING D0GKING Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 So yeah what changes do you think will happen next format? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dante v. Nero Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Oh, give me an hour. I'll have a complete list and all of the reasons why. And you will all be stunned. And shocked. And murdered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Remember guys, generate WORTHWHILE discussion. Naming a list of cards isn't worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest - Sharpshooter - Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 I'm expecting BLS to go back to 0, but then again I'm not entirely sure if they'll do it. As much as it pains me to say it, I think Future Fusion's gonna get the banhammer, and hopefully we'll get Royal Oppression back, too. Future Fusion just opens up too many strategies and it's become broken, and with the Dragon Deck coming out soon, it only gets worse. I'd love to see Stratos or RotA put to 2, though. It'd give HEROes a nice boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Taking a wild guess that BLS and Heavy Storm will get banned again. They're not too good for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest -Noel- Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 BLS is going, FuFu is staying (Even the new Dragon cards didn't make the deck consistent, and no builds who run FuFu as the main card are topping. Don't use the excuse that if a deck is based around FuFu, it should be banned because of it.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Despite the fact it seems a bit early for this.... Konami might just do something wild and put Chaos Sorcerer to 0 and Luster to 2.I mean why not? The previous lists have done something like that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 BLS is going, FuFu is staying (Even the new Dragon cards didn't make the deck consistent, and no builds who run FuFu as the main card are topping. Don't use the excuse that if a deck is based around FuFu, it should be banned because of it.).This. Future Fusion is really abusable, but not broken enough to be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Evil Tristan Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 BLS, Brio and Trish to go. FuFu hopefully, but probably won't. Possibly Tsukiyomi to come back to 1. Kristya to 1 (Possibly 0). Dandy to possibly go. Too lazy to put obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted December 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 anyone think tribe infecting virus should completely come back?it doesnt seem that great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest -Noel- Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Trishula doesn't need to go, Tristan. Brionac probably will, since we have Orient Dragon and Gravity Warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nero Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Forbidden 「禁止カード」 Monster Cards Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning (From Limited)Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier (From Limited)Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End 「混沌帝龍(カオス・エンペラー・ドラゴン) -終(しゅう)焉(えん)の使(し)者(しゃ)-」Cyber-Stein 「デビルフランケン」Cyber Jar 「サイバーポッド」Dandylion (From Limited)Dark Magician of Chaos 「混(こん)沌(とん)の黒(くろ)魔(ま)術(じゅつ)師(し)」Dark Strike Fighter 「ダーク・ダイブ・ボンバー」Destiny HERO - Disk Commander 「D-HERO(デステニーヒーロー) ディスクガイ」Fiber Jar 「ファイバーポッド」Fishborg Blaster 「フィッシュボーグ-ガンナー」 (From Unlimited)Goyo Guardian 「ゴヨウ・ガーディアン」Magical Scientist 「魔(ま)導(どう)サイエンティスト」Magician of Faith 「聖なる魔術師(セイント・マジシャン)」Makyura the Destructor 「処(しょ)刑(けい)人(にん)-マキュラ」Mind Master 「メンタルマスター」 (From Limited)Rescue Cat 「レスキューキャット」Rescue Rabbit (From Unlimited)Sinister Serpent 「キラー・スネーク」Substitoad 「イレカエル」Tour Guide of the Underworld (From Unlimited)Thousand-Eyes Restrict 「サウザンド・アイズ・サクリファイス」Tribe-Infecting Virus 「同(どう)族(ぞく)感(かん)染(せん)ウィルス」Tsukuyomi 「月読命(つくよみ)」Victory Dragon 「ヴィクトリー・ドラゴン」Witch of the Black Forest 「黒(くろ)き森(もり)のウィッチ」Yata-Garasu 「八汰烏(やたがらす)」 Spell CardsBrain Control 「洗脳(せんのう)-ブレイン・コントロール-」Butterfly Dagger - Elma 「蝶(ちょう)の短(たん)剣(けん)-エルマ」Card of Safe Return 「生(せい)還(かん)の宝(ほう)札(さつ)」Change of Heart 「心(こころ)変(か)わり」Cold Wave 「大(だい)寒(かん)波(ぱ)」Confiscation 「押(おう)収(しゅう)」Delinquent Duo 「いたずら好(ず)きな双(ふた)子(ご)悪(あく)魔(ま)」Dimension Fusion 「次(じ)元(げん)融(ゆう)合(ごう)」Graceful Charity 「天(てん)使(し)の施(ほどこ)し」Harpie's Feather Duster 「ハーピィの羽(は)根(ね)帚(ぼうき)」Heavy Storm (From Limited)Last Will 「遺(ゆい)言(ごん)状(じょう)」Mass Driver 「マスドライバー」Metamorphosis 「突然変異(メタモルフォーゼ)」Mirage of Nightmare 「悪(あく)夢(む)の蜃(しん)気(き)楼(ろう)」Painful Choice 「苦(く)渋(じゅう)の選(せん)択(たく)」Pot of Greed 「強(ごう)欲(よく)な壺(つぼ)」Premature Burial「早(はや)すぎた埋葬(まいそう)」Raigeki 「サンダー・ボルト」Snatch Steal 「強(ごう)奪(だつ)」Temple of the Kings 「王(おう)家(け)の神(しん)殿(でん)」The Forceful Sentry 「強(ごう)引(いん)な番(ばん)兵(へい)」 Trap CardsCrush Card Virus 「死(し)のデッキ破壊(はかい)ウイルス」Exchange of the Spirit 「現(げん)世(せ)と冥(めい)界(かい)の逆(ぎゃく)転(てん)」Imperial Order 「王(おう)宮(きゅう)の勅(ちょく)命(めい)」Last Turn 「ラストバトル!」Ring of Destruction 「破(は)壊(かい)輪(りん)」Royal Oppression 「王(おう)宮(きゅう)の弾(だん)圧(あつ)」 (From Limited)Sixth Sense 「第(だい)六(ろっ)感(かん)」Time Seal 「刻(とき)の封(ふう)印(いん)」 Limited 「制限カード」 Monster CardsBlackwing - Gale the Whirlwind 「BF(ブラックフェザー)-疾(しっ)風(ぷう)のゲイル」Dark Armed Dragon 「ダーク・アームド・ドラゴン」Elemental Hero Stratos 「E・HERO(エレメンタルヒーロー)エアーマン」Formula Synchron 「フォーミュラ・シンクロン」 (From Unlimited)Exodia the Forbidden One 「封(ふう)印(いん)されしエクゾディア」Giant Trunade (From Forbidden)Gladiator Beast Bestiari 「剣闘獣(グラディアルビースト)ベストロウリィ」Gorz the Emissary of Darkness 「冥(めい)府(ふ)の使(し)者(しゃ)ゴーズ」Honest 「オネスト」Left Arm of the Forbidden One 「封(ふう)印(いん)されし者(もの)の左(ひだり)腕(うで)」Left Leg of the Forbidden One 「封(ふう)印(いん)されし者(もの)の左(ひだり)足(あし)」Legendary Six Samurai - Shi En 「真(しん)六(ろく)武(ぶ)衆(しゅう)-シエン」 (From Unlimited)Lonefire Blossom 「ローンファイア・ブロッサム」 (From Semi-Limited)Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner 「ライトロード・サモナー ルミナス」Marshmallon 「マシュマロン」Mezuki 「馬頭鬼(めずき)」Morphing Jar 「メタモルポット」Necroface 「ネクロフェイス」Neo-Spacian Grand Mole 「N(ネオスペーシアン)・グラン・モール」Night Assailant 「深淵の暗殺者(ナイト・アサシン)」Plaguespreader Zombie 「ゾンビキャリア」Right Arm of the Forbidden One 「封(ふう)印(いん)されし者(もの)の右(みぎ)腕(うで)」Right Leg of the Forbidden One 「封(ふう)印(いん)されし者(もの)の右(みぎ)足(あし)」Sangan 「クリッター」T.G. Hyper Librarian 「TG(テックジーナス) ハイパー・ライブラリアン」 (From Unlimited)Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier 「氷(ひょう)結(けっ)界(かい)の龍(りゅう) トリシューラ」 (From Unlimited) (TCG Only) Spell CardsAdvanced Ritual Art 「高(こう)等(とう)儀(ぎ)式(しき)術(じゅつ)」Allure of Darkness 「闇(やみ)の誘(ゆう)惑(わく)」Black Whirlwind 「黒(くろ)い旋(せん)風(ぷう)」Book of Moon 「月(つき)の書(しょ)」Burial from a Different Dimension 「異(い)次(じ)元(げん)からの埋(まい)葬(そう)」Card Destruction 「手(て)札(ふだ)抹(まっ)殺(さつ)」Charge of the Light Brigade 「光(ひかり)の援(えん)軍(ぐん)」Dark Hole 「ブラック・ホール」Emergency Teleport 「緊急(きんきゅう)テレポート」Foolish Burial 「おろかな埋葬(まいそう)」Future Fusion 「未来(みらい)融合(ゆうごう)-フューチャー・フュージョン」Gateway of the Six 「六(ろく)武(ぶ)の門(もん)」Infernity Launcher 「インフェルニティガン」Level Limit - Area B 「レベル制(せい)限(げん)B地(ち)区(く)」Limiter Removal 「リミッター解(かい)除(じょ)」Mind Control 「精(せい)神(しん)操(そう)作(さ)」Monster Gate 「モンスターゲート」Monster Reborn 「死(し)者(しゃ)蘇(そ)生(せい)」One for One 「ワン・フォー・ワン」Pot of Avarice 「貪(どん)欲(よく)な壺(つぼ)」 (From Unlimited)Primal Seed 「原(げん)初(しょ)の種(たね)」 (From Unlimited)Reasoning 「名(めい)推(すい)理(り)」Reinforcement of the Army 「増(ぞう)援(えん)」Scapegoat 「スケープ・ゴート」Shien's Smoke Signal 「紫(シ)炎(エン)の狼煙(のろし)」 (From Unlimited) Trap CardsCeasefire 「停(てい)戦(せん)協(きょう)定(てい)」Magical Explosion 「マジカル・エクスプロージョン」Mirror Force 「聖(せい)なるバリア‐ミラーフォース」Return from the Different Dimension 「異(い)次(じ)元(げん)からの帰(き)還(かん)」Solemn Judgment 「神(かみ)の宣(せん)告(こく)」The Transmigration Prophecy 「転(てん)生(せい)の予(よ)言(げん)」Torrential Tribute 「激(げき)流(りゅう)葬(そう)」Trap Dustshoot 「ダスト・シュート」Wall of Revealing Light 「光(ひかり)の護(ご)封(ふう)壁(へき)」 Semi-Limited 「準制限カード」 Monster Cards Archlord Kristya 「大(だい)天(てん)使(し)クリスティア」Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow (From Limited)Card Trooper 「カード・ガンナー」Debris Dragon (From Limited)Destiny Hero - Malicious 「D-HERO(デステニーヒーロー) ディアボリックガイ」Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Barrier 「氷(ひょう)結(けっ)界(かい)の虎(こ)王(おう)ドゥローレン」 (From Unlimited)Necro Gardna 「ネクロ・ガードナー」 (From Limited)Summoner Monk 「召(しょう)喚(かん)僧(そう)サモンプリースト」 (From Limited)Tragoedia 「トラゴエディア」 (From Limited) Spell Cards Chain Strike 「連鎖爆撃(チェーン・ストライク)」Destiny Draw 「デステニー・ドロー」 (From Limited)Magical Stone Excavation 「魔(ま)法(ほう)石(せき)の採(さい)掘(くつ)」Royal Tribute 「王(おう)家(け)の生(い)け贄(にえ)」Swords of Revealing Light 「光(ひかり)の護(ご)封(ふう)剣(けん)」 (From Limited) Trap Cards Call of the Haunted 「リビングデッドの呼(よ)び声(こえ)」 (From Limited)Magic Cylinder 「魔法の筒(マジック・シリンダ)」Mind Crush 「マインドクラッシュ」 (From Limited)Ojama Trio 「おジャマトリオ」Solemn Warning 「神(かみ)の警(けい)告(こく)」 Unlimited 「制限解除」 Monster Cards Judgment Dragon 「裁きの龍(ジャッジメント・ドラグーン)」 (From Semi-Limited)Spirit Reaper 「魂(たましい)を削(けず)る死(し)霊(りょう)」 (From Semi-Limited) Spell CardsMegamorph 「巨(きょ)大(だい)化(か)」 (From Semi-Limited)Mystical Space Typhoon 「サイクロン」 (From Semi-Limited)Overload Fusion 「オーバーロード・フュージョン」 (From Semi-Limited) Trap CardsBottomless Trap Hole (From Semi-Limited)Gravity Bind 「グラヴィティ・バインド-超(ちょう)重(じゅう)力(りょく)の網(あみ)-」 (From Limited)Icarus Attack 「ゴッドバードアタック」 (From Semi-Limited)Now, why I think this: Banned: Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning: I don't think I need to explain this one.Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier: Too easily fuels OTKs and has been deserving the spot for a while now.Dandylion: I don't think I need to explain this one.Rescue Rabbit: I don't think I need to explain this one.Tour Guide of the Underworld: Same thing.Heavy Storm: A real crap-step in logic, Konami decided that Spell and Trap Cards should be made easier bait. So they banned Trunade, which is obviously better, and put in the most broken card in existence. Now, let's all refer to our primate being as we bash our foreheads on our computer keyboards (or laptops, if you are me). Limited: Giant Trunade: See Heavy Storm. Semi-Limited: Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow: Would actually make Blackwings playable again. They need the increased attack/defense force.Debris Dragon: Putting it @2 just to see how it goes. I'm sure it can't be that bad. After all, it's @2 on YGO Online. Unlimited: Bottomless Trap Hole: In my opinion, it should see more play. It wouldn't hurt the game structure for it to be @3, simply because it is a card that isn't really run anymore due to Solemn Warning. So, overall, some small changes, and all of the urgent bans got their attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest -Noel- Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Tour Guide and Rabbit won't go this easily, Dante. Especially Tour Guide, it's not even on OCG yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Evil Tristan Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 lol idiots who want Heavy banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKaitoKid Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 I think Heavy will stay lest they bring back Trunade [which was only really used when you wanted to deliver the deathblow]. I also think Future Fusion is gonna get the Banstick. It's just too broken; it only gets worse when Light Pulsar makes it way to the TCG in February.BLS may need to go but it's not too much of an issue so I doubt it. Knowing Konami they may drop Chaos Sorcerer to 2 though. I can see and Kristya and Hyperion at 2. Though maybe Kristya @ 1 isn't the worst idea. Trishula & Brionac will probably go to 0, effectively killing the whole Ice Barrier archetype. Those are the major ones to me. Epic lulz to come if Mystic Shine or Venus take a hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest -Tsubaki- Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 *These points are possibilities which I'm currently unsure about. Forbidden:• BLS - Should be self explanatory. They really failed on trying to create a more diverse format with this, thought there's no point in bothering to argue about it. Just put it to 0 and be done with it.• Brionac - Should also be self explanatory. With CotH at 2, this thing becomes even more goddamn annoying since you can recycle your Call. Also has far too much versatility for what it is and should not have been kept at limited.[*• Future Fusion - Mega Foolish Burial on steroids that has a ton of loops when done right. Don't feel like going into it, but this might be a little bit more balanced if Brionac is to go. Konami may also ban this for future thinking about the new Chaos Dragons and such.OR*• FGD - No Dragon Target = No Abuse with Chaos Dragons. Preemptive thinking again on Konami's part if they do this.] Limited:• Rescue Rabbit - Doesn't really need an explanation, but hitting the rabbit will help reduce the chances of drawing into it at least. Might possibly be banned, but eh.• Agent of Mystery, Earth - Lowers the consistency of Agents since they can't grab Venus as quickly and other stuff like that. Limit this so that they only have 1 searcher instead of 3.• Archlord Kristya - Doesn't need an explanation also, seeing as how this nearly completely stops all of your opponent's plays by making it so that they can't get over the wall of things which you have now managed to amount to.• Grapha, Dragon God of Dark World - If Konami leave this at 3 they're f**king retarded. Semi-Limited:Not sure about this yet. Unlimited:• Magical Stone Excavation - Not good any more, so why not just put it back to 3 for the lulz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Forbidden:*• Future Fusion - Mega Foolish Burial on steroids that has a ton of loops when done right. Don't feel like going into it, but this might be a little bit more balanced if Brionac is to go. Konami may also ban this for future thinking about the new Chaos Dragons and such.*• FGD - No Dragon Target = No Abuse with Chaos Dragons. Preemptive thinking again on Konami's part if they do this.Wait, why put them both on the list?FGD is only abusable because Future Fusion.With Future@0, FGD no longer becomes a Painful Choice. And its not like you can use Prisma either, as the materials aren't specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest -Tsubaki- Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Wait, why put them both on the list?FGD is only abusable because Future Fusion.With Future@0, FGD no longer becomes a Painful Choice. And its not like you can use Prisma either, as the materials aren't specific. One or the other was what should of been implied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Oh, and your going about Rabbit all wrong.As you also forgot about Gold Sarcophagus.The number of Rabbits doesn't even matter, as everyone will Banish Rabbit with Sarcoph -> Touguide into Leviair -> Leviair grabs Rabbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted December 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 so guys we all agree magical stone excavation at 3 and bls-eotb banner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dante v. Nero Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 In the end (inb4ZeXAL reference so suck it), at least one of us is going to be jabroniing about the Ban-List anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Ban 1-4-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Evil Tristan Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 I still don't get why people b**** so much about the current banlist... Especially when March 2011 was horrendous beyond all belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 Ban 1-4-1.One for One is fine at One. Yea, One-Ceptiopn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dante v. Nero Posted December 16, 2011 Report Share Posted December 16, 2011 One for One is fine at One. Yea, One-Ceptiopn. Damn it, you stole what I was going to say. Enjoy a +Like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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