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[quote name='Leviair the byakk Dragon' timestamp='1325529979' post='5744597']
You obviously play Kushano but Quickdraw Synchron just seems like a bad route because all you're really doing is summoning Drill Warrior/Junk Destroyer when you could just summon better cards.
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It is at worst Volcasaurus fodder, at best Drill Warrior.

It lets you run Level Eater without the large fear of dead drawing it, and that little bug adds a ton of combos to the deck.

The deck is a lot smoother with Quickdraw added than without, and it leads to considerably more advantage. I was wary of trying it, but, once I did... It helped a ton.

Olly runs 2, I only run 1. All up to preference, really.

[quote name='jamesfopresident' timestamp='1325530171' post='5744604']
You do run Kushano in good Fableds just you use Tourguide to get it then detach it for consistency not using bad cards like Quick Draw.
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Quickdraw adds consistency ._.

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[quote name='jamesfopresident' timestamp='1325530575' post='5744619']
Quickdraw is inconsistent bcuz to be good you need lvl Eater and that card adds inconsistency so two inconsistent cards just making your hands shitty ^.^.
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You don't /need/ Level Eater ._.

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[quote name='jamesfopresident' timestamp='1325530868' post='5744631']
If you dont have Lvl Eater then your going to be sending a Fabled or another monster from your hand and thats just a bad free -1.
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Sending Kushano is a +0 in the end
Dandylion is a +1
Glow-up is a +0
Level Eater is a +0

If there's no Kushano in grave/hand, you're doing it wrong =/

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Card isn't THAT bad. 3200 ATK with a 3 card mill plus potential for 0-3 card destruction.

The problem is it requires 3 Level 5s, and as we point out with all Rank 5s, Volcasaurus is king of Rank 5s, with very few runner ups. And they only require 2 Materials, not 3.

I've only found myself capable of Summoning this in Sacreds. I still chose not to in favor of a better Rank 5.

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*reads James's argument* OK, so we can happily assume I'm not the most erm stupid player in this section anymore. this card is worth the 3 Level 5's. Would you rather keep 3 Level 5's to be killed by most of the meta or overlay and kill some monsters? Hell, here's my idea and everyone in this thread probably thought of this.
Activate Machine's effect.
Milled 2 monsters.
Opponent destroys their only two monsters.
ATTTACCKKKK!!!!!!!!

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[quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1325554123' post='5745451']
*reads James's argument* OK, so we can happily assume I'm not the most erm stupid player in this section anymore. this card is worth the 3 Level 5's. Would you rather keep 3 Level 5's to be killed by most of the meta or overlay and kill some monsters? Hell, here's my idea and everyone in this thread probably thought of this.
Activate Machine's effect.
Milled 2 monsters.
Opponent destroys their only two monsters.
ATTTACCKKKK!!!!!!!!
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James made a completely valid point.

If we're discussing Level Eater, Glow-Up Bulb, Dandylion and Fableds + Level 5s, I demand to frigging know why Quasar hasn't popped up.

> also, when have Fableds had Extra Deck space.
> brionac's level 6.

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[quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1325554896' post='5745481']
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James made a completely valid point.

If we're discussing Level Eater, Glow-Up Bulb, Dandylion and Fableds + Level 5s, I demand to frigging know why Quasar hasn't popped up.

> also, when have Fableds had Extra Deck space.
> brionac's level 6.
[/quote]I was referring to the [quote][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]There is like no way of spaming lvl 5s I guess you could go Cyber Instant Fusion and The Tricky but at that point if you xyz'd you would be going sooo much - it wouldnt rlly be good at all.[/quote] and the [quote][/size][/font][/color][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Ok Dark Worlds dont use Gold/Silva if they do the build is bad anyways[/quote][/size][/font][/color]

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Well, if you got out this via Cyber Dragons + Instants + whatever, you'd get a -2 at first.

So, so vulnerable ._.

[quote]Ok Dark Worlds dont use Gold/Silva if they do the build is bad anyways[/quote]

You're only supposed to max. use 1 Sillva. And never use Goldd. Ever.

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[quote name='JadenxAtemYAOI' timestamp='1325555450' post='5745495']
Figures, I leave competitive gameplay for several months and I forget the first ruling. Use cheerful coffin instead.
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Cheerful Coffin is inconsistent though. So is running Silvva and Goldd.

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[quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1325555322' post='5745490']
Well, if you got out this via Cyber Dragons + Instants + whatever, you'd get a -2 at first.

So, so vulnerable ._.



You're only supposed to max. use 1 Sillva. And never use Goldd. Ever.
[/quote] I actually find Goldd rather useful since people like using Hand Destruction.

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Jaden you sound like one of those people who goes 3-2 at a locals makes top 8 as 8th then gets 2-0ed in top and thinks hes teh s*** bcuz he toped a locals. Both Gold and Silva suck this card sucks Brio is a cost and lvl 6 also you cant get DW's effect off with hand destruction either it sends does not discard. Also what happens when you dont hit a monster? The fact Catastor about kills anything should be enough and if you had the cards to make three lvl 5s of they did have somthing that Catastor couldnt kill i'm sure you could of made somthing that could.

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[quote name='jamesfopresident' timestamp='1325555821' post='5745508']
Jaden you sound like one of those people who goes 3-2 at a locals makes top 8 as 8th then gets 2-0ed in top and thinks hes teh s*** bcuz he toped a locals. Both Gold and Silva suck this card sucks Brio is a cost and lvl 6 also you cant get DW's effect off with hand destruction either it sends does not discard. Also what happens when you dont hit a monster? The fact Catastor about kills anything should be enough and if you had the cards to make three lvl 5s of they did have somthing that Catastor couldnt kill i'm sure you could of made somthing that could.
[/quote]I actually place first every time beating most Tier 1 decks with a deck that isn't even tier. [quote][color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]So to get this out, you have to have 3 of Silvva/Goldd in hand + Card Destruction.[/quote] Pays off when I use it. Once beat a Six Sam deck with that. My dueling history on YN can back that up.[/size][/font][/color]

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[quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1325555832' post='5745509']
So to get this out, you have to have 3 of Silvva/Goldd in hand + Card Destruction.

/ok

I like to basically -3 myself.
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Thank you!!! Your like one of the only competent player here lol.
If you have those cards you should be able to OTK w/o making this bad card that doesnt even fit into any extras.

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