DickAnderson Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Edit: What about now? OLD VERSION [img]http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/299/544953.jpg[/img] Double Edit: What about now? NEW VERSION. [img]http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/299/544953.jpg[/img] I realize it is still a little overpowered. Please all opinions welcome, I am new so please tell me what I'm missing and what improvements to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherz Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 hmm, well thats a bit overpowered on how easy u can special it, battle, discard, ect... and there already is a defender of darkworld, both players discard is good, b ut maybe change those minor flaws and it should be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickAnderson Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I wasn't sure how to make Dark World that good but I'm going to try to make a whole set over time. I just bought a Dark World deck, and so far I love it. Thanks for the input. What If I make it reduce, by 500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 ... Kinda broken ._. It's an essentially free monster with 3000/2600 that makes you discard another card. While giving up advantage like that isn't good, you're also costing them a card at no cost, except, y'know, discarding a Dark World to set it off ._. It's effect is, effectively, a +1, considering you'll discard Grapha/Broww/Snoww/Beiige for its effect, you get the card you discarded back in one way or another, while they'll lose a card. They get to choose, though, so it's a bit iffy. What kind of drawback is losing 200 ATK? ._. idk if it would actually be run, but it's terrible design. @Above: Renge is GATEKEEPER, not defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickAnderson Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1327635174' post='5783339'] ... Kinda broken ._. It's an essentially free monster with 3000/2600 that makes you discard another card. While giving up advantage like that isn't good, you're also costing them a card at no cost, except, y'know, discarding a Dark World to set it off ._. It's effect is, effectively, a +1, considering you'll discard Grapha/Broww/Snoww/Beiige for its effect, you get the card you discarded back in one way or another, while they'll lose a card. They get to choose, though, so it's a bit iffy. What kind of drawback is losing 200 ATK? ._. idk if it would actually be run, but it's terrible design. @Above: Renge is GATEKEEPER, not defender. [/quote] I edited it, Changed to reduce by 1000. What about now? EDIT: Oh and made it "LIMITED EDITION". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 [quote name='DickAnderson' timestamp='1327635680' post='5783361'] I edited it, Changed to reduce by 1000. What about now? EDIT: Oh and made it "LIMITED EDITION". [/quote] Still doesn't matter because Grapha exists. Reborn this, bounce it for Grapha, discard some DW, get this out again. Otherwise, you wouldn't even summon it ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickAnderson Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I might just redo this entire effect and make it to where that's the only way to summon it, and give it another effect. Best thing to do you think? Edit: I redid the Effect and changed it to 1st edition. The rarity has also changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickAnderson Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Here is another card to go to the set. [img]http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/299/544953.jpg[/img] Please tell me what i need to correct on it, if any mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 well the atk gain and loss of 300 isn't really much it's only a net total of 600, which is little I'd have made it like 500 or 700 or something like that instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Vortex is Gate without any sort of adavantage given. Pretty bad with no real way to boost it over Gate without redoign it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickAnderson Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Well I didn't want to make the "Dark World Vortex" to strong, so i wanted to make it a little weak and see what people comment about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mask of Darkness Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 One question. What color is Drott based on? I really can't notice a specific color or anything and the name doesn't ring any bells to me. On Drott, I'm not very good with card effect rating, but I think the first one really is better. It has a disadvantage that is gotten rid of in the second edition, while it's positive ability is kept the same. Onto Dark World Vortex, it's a gain of +400 in any battle. That is not helpful really, as most every other bonus really is at least 500 with very few exceptions. I'd bump up the boost by at least a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickAnderson Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I will I'm not going to post the newly updated set until I research and put allot of thought into them. I will attempt to start making allot of set's on this forum site, I am really in love with this whole site. In reply to Mask of Darkness, I intently put my Vortex card low to see other people's comments and views on it. I have already updated it. Also my first version of Drott, is a little OP truly. I did not reference Drott to anything, I simply came up with it in my head and thought that picture was perfect for the card name. To everyone else: Thank you for your help and comment's I will put 2 more cards plus my updated version of these 2 in a day or two. See-ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanPark24 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 The point. I have failed to find it. </3 This card had potential, and then it didn't. All it is is a 2500 ATK beat stick with a single discard effect. It could have been so much better. Yeah. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 That's a free summon that comes whenever you +1 ._. Drott is still terrible card design, whether it would be played or not. It says Discard a DW, summon a 2500 beater in addition to a Draw/Search/Destruction/SS, ten discard again. Of course you'd time when to discard it. And Vortex has no real room to improve because Gate exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickAnderson Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I'm not aiming for perfect cards I'm just making them for the fun of it. I'm not aiming towards anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namo™ Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I am so surprised no one has seen this yet "If a CARD with Dark World in it's name is Sent from Field to Grave" That means even cards like Gates, Dealings, Lightning, this will be SS from the hand. Also the OCG is horrible (Just saying) And Dark World Vortex is a Gates with a decreasing Eff... Really...? Either way both these cards are rediculous and right now I don't think Dark Worlds need any support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicktheholypet Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Good 7/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickAnderson Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 [quote name='Namo™' timestamp='1327807670' post='5786746'] I am so surprised no one has seen this yet "If a CARD with Dark World in it's name is Sent from Field to Grave" That means even cards like Gates, Dealings, Lightning, this will be SS from the hand. Also the OCG is horrible (Just saying) And Dark World Vortex is a Gates with a decreasing Eff... Really...? Either way both these cards are rediculous and right now I don't think Dark Worlds need any support [/quote] I'm just making a set of 9 cards for each of my structure decks I own. I don't have any reasoning behind them, I also fixed both of these cards and are now ALLOT better, but I'm going to make 2 more and proof them allot before showing them for comments and suggestions. I love Dark World decks lol =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickAnderson Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Sorry for the double post. I'm not going to be able to post them tonight or make another card, because I am fixing to pass out. lol I just partied for two days in a row, and one of which had a somewhat of a mosh-pit. So goodnight to everyone, I will post them when I get the time tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mask of Darkness Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Well, I'm still not very good with OCG or Balance, but I do have some complaints on Card Design. You won't see a Blackwing- Dark Raven or a Batteryman 15V or something of the like, because they break the traditions of their Archtypes. Your monster is neither named after a Color like actual Dark World monsters, no does it resemble them. Dark World monsters tend to be twisted humanoid demons (And Grapha), no one would ever actually expect to see the Grim Reaper (And a rather well used picture at that) among them, he would just stand out, but not in a good way. Appeal really is a part of cards, and this one has no appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickAnderson Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 [quote name='Mask of Darkness' timestamp='1327886841' post='5788674'] Well, I'm still not very good with OCG or Balance, but I do have some complaints on Card Design. You won't see a Blackwing- Dark Raven or a Batteryman 15V or something of the like, because they break the traditions of their Archtypes. Your monster is neither named after a Color like actual Dark World monsters, no does it resemble them. Dark World monsters tend to be twisted humanoid demons (And Grapha), no one would ever actually expect to see the Grim Reaper (And a rather well used picture at that) among them, he would just stand out, but not in a good way. Appeal really is a part of cards, and this one has no appeal. [/quote] Thank you!! See I never really knew cards had patterns or anything like this. I'm new to this site and making cards (obviously). I really appreciate your comment, it has helped me allot with dark world cards. I have made a new version of both these cards, and I can't thank you enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickAnderson Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 OK guys so I have improved and made new version of both these cards, and two more cards. I am happy with them and the results, but of course and like usual I want everyone's opinions. Otherwise how would I get better. =) None of this artwork on any of these cards are mine they are all borrowed through Google image searches, etc. First: Ceris, Defender of Dark World: [img]http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/299/544953.jpg[/img] Effect: This card can only be special summoned (from your hand) if a card you control with "Dark World" in its name is sent to the graveyard. Once every other turn you can activate one of these effects: Both players discard a card; Choose a spell or trap card on your opponents field. If you guess what type it is, destroy it. These effects cannot be negated, or stopped (Even if this card is destroyed, banished or returned to the hand). Second: Dark World Vortex: [img]http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/299/544953.jpg[/img] Description: All monsters on field with "Dark World" in there name, have there ATK Increased by 500. All other monsters have there ATK decreased by 200. You can pay 1000 life points to return this card from your graveyard, to your deck (your deck is then shuffled). Third: Dark World Dealer [img]http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/299/544953.jpg[/img] Description: Tribute one monster you control with 2000 or more ATK, to increase your life points by 1000. Fourth: Mordant, Ambassador of Dark World [img]http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/299/544953.jpg[/img] Effect: When this card is discarded (from your hand) to your graveyard by a card effect, you can special summon this card from your graveyard. When this card is special summoned this way, this card gains 800 ATK until your 2nd End Phase after this card has been special summoned. These are all the cards I have made for Dark World as of today. Please comment and help me improve, don't forget to tell me how good they are too. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 [quote name='Mask of Darkness' timestamp='1327886841' post='5788674'] Well, I'm still not very good with OCG or Balance, but I do have some complaints on Card Design. You won't see a Blackwing- Dark Raven or a Batteryman 15V or something of the like, because they break the traditions of their Archtypes. Your monster is neither named after a Color like actual Dark World monsters, no does it resemble them. Dark World monsters tend to be twisted humanoid demons (And Grapha), no one would ever actually expect to see the Grim Reaper (And a rather well used picture at that) among them, he would just stand out, but not in a good way. Appeal really is a part of cards, and this one has no appeal. [/quote] You're kidding, right? Just rate the damn card. These cards are never going to make it into the real world anyway, so why bother commenting on "Card Design"? And another thing, how is that helpful critique? Does it change the entire way the effect is worded? Does it change the monster's ATK/DEF/Level? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickAnderson Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 [quote name='~~Xiahou Dun~~' timestamp='1327943080' post='5789586'] You're kidding, right? Just rate the damn card. These cards are never going to make it into the real world anyway, so why bother commenting on "Card Design"? And another thing, how is that helpful critique? Does it change the entire way the effect is worded? Does it change the monster's ATK/DEF/Level? No. [/quote] OK Mr. Negative lol I want my cards to be Realistic, that is the point of this forum section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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