CDDRodrigo Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Collab with Klavier/Yüki Terumi [img]http://i.imgur.com/WA1Kb.jpg[/img] [b][color=#ff8c00]MONSTERS[/color][/b]: 18 3 The Sacred Kaust 3 The Sacred Pollux 3 The Sacred Gredi 1 Honest 3 The Sacred Leonis 3 The Sacred Sheratan 2 The Sacred Schet [color=#00ff00][b]SPELLS[/b][/color]: 13 1 Dark Hole 1 Heavy Storm 1 Monster Reborn 2 Mystical Space Typhoon 3 Pot of Duality 1 Reinforcement of the Army 3 Star of the Sacred 1 Super Rebirth of the Sacred [color=#ee82ee][b]TRAPS[/b][/color]: 9 2 Call of the Haunted 2 Fiendish Chain 1 Solemn Judgment 2 Solemn Warning 1 Torrential Tribute 1 Trap Dustshoot Onto the explanations for certain choices now. Well, the basic frame is the same, and that cannot be changed. But we've made different choices on the other departments. Mainly the inclusion of Leonis. Now, Leonis is not as good good as Pollux, but we couldn't rely ONLY on Pollux. And, Leonis also aids the main flaw of the general build: the big dependance on Kaust. Leonis can make you a +0 Ptolemys play with Sheratan, and at the same time searching for a combo piece next turn. Leonis' effect can also be used if he wasn't Normal Summoned, so that's another plus on it's account. The lack of Cyber Dragon is also justfied by Leonis' presence. And Schet does the job of CyDra just as good with different caractheristics. Also notable the lack of hand traps. But why? Because this deck is too combo-oriented. Maining hand traps is not optimal here; you'll side all of them. (We didn't make a side yet, but it'll be done soon.) Spell-wise, it's also really similar to most builds. But differently from them, we run only 1 Super Rebirth. Because early game, it's a bad draw. But this goes down to preference; we found better cards to use. Now for ther traps, you'll see a major difference here. The presence of Call of the Haunted instead of Xyz Reborn. The general consensus is that Xyz Reborn is better here because you'll almost always have an Xyz play. But Call of the Haunted serves for a different purpose. Note how Leonis' effect can be used if we revive him. And notice how Kaust is pratically unreachable once it hits the Graveyard. Call of the Haunted mends that. And since we lack hand traps, Fiendish Chain helps on this. The extra deck is really straightforward too, and we highly accept suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgrug4 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Can you explain why Cyber Dragon or Ghost ship wouldnt be good here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name='sgrug4' timestamp='1328222608' post='5795857'] Can you explain why Cyber Dragon or Ghost ship wouldnt be good here? [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name='sgrug4' timestamp='1328222608' post='5795857'] Can you explain why Cyber Dragon or Ghost ship wouldnt be good here? [/quote] [quote name='~~Xiahou Dun~~' timestamp='1328222798' post='5795864'] [/quote] [quote] The lack of Cyber Dragon is also justfied by Leonis' presence. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [s]Yours arn't Blinded by Light, therefore mine are better[/s] How is Leonis testing? He seems sorta good to be quite honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Leonis tested amazingly. It's a very good piece of the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgrug4 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Is leonis consistant? He only has a couple targets. Can u take out 1 leonis? Or 1 MST for a CyDra? I'm not comfortable playing sacreds without more free summons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Well, Leonis is really great here. If you want to try with only 2, feel free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgrug4 Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328225803' post='5795987'] Well, Leonis is really great here. If you want to try with only 2, feel free. [/quote] Nvm i tested with 1 MST and 2 Dualities +2 CyDra Leonis + pollux = win lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328222395' post='5795852'] Also notable the lack of hand traps. But why? Because this deck is too combo-oriented. Maining hand traps is not optimal here; you'll side all of them. (We didn't make a side yet, but it'll be done soon.) And since we lack hand traps, Fiendish Chain helps on this. [/quote] All I read was "I'd rather draw Fiendish Chain than Veiler/Maxx "C"/f***, even D.D. Crow when I play Wind-Ups and get looped" Which is profound logic because Fiendish Chain is best in the Grave anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1328240008' post='5796395'] All I read was "I'd rather draw Fiendish Chain than Veiler/Maxx "C"/f***, even D.D. Crow when I play Wind-Ups and get looped" Which is profound logic because Fiendish Chain is best in the Grave anyway. [/quote] If we're going to use this logic Fiendish Chain is better because it makes your hand smaller because of Trap Dustshoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328263879' post='5796679'] If we're going to use this logic Fiendish Chain is better because it makes your hand smaller because of Trap Dustshoot [/quote] "I'd rather be scared of a 1-of than a combo that can be pulled off 42-43% of the time (not including hand traps)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Well yes, Wind-Ups are the only deck outside of Sacreds. Silly us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 i've never seen the appeal of Leonis. Especially since I'm still pretty adamant that Leonis and Pollux don't stack due to summoning the same archtype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I don't think they stack either, but Leonis is cool here because it's not as restrictive as Pollux when it comes to using the effect and it can make regular Rank 3 plays (Zemaines or Leviathan) with Sheratan or Kaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328305042' post='5797126'] I don't think they stack either, but Leonis is cool here because it's not as restrictive as Pollux when it comes to using the effect and it can make regular Rank 3 plays (Zemaines or Leviathan) with Sheratan or Kaust. [/quote] But why would you make them when you're supposed to be making the Sacred Xyzs for pluses? Playing Level 3s in Sacreds is just generally bad unless you play multiple Hyades, which is bad in itself and only even worth running 1 of usually because of the fact that it makes Ptolemys. fyi. Everyone plays 1 Super Rebirth, so don't seem special. :l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Yeah, obviously you only run 1 Hyades. But not everytime you have Sacred Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Being able to summon 2 other monsters makes a card good? Idgi. Besides, the Rank 5s are the better ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328305200' post='5797132'] Yeah, obviously you only run 1 Hyades. But not everytime you have Sacred Star. [/quote] You don't play it for Sacred Star. Star's a bonus. The best card in the deck is PTOLEMYS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328305200' post='5797132'] Yeah, obviously you only run 1 Hyades. But not everytime you have Sacred Star. [/quote] But you should always have a Ptolemys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Yes, it is. But Leonis tested very nice here. It actually gave the deck less dependance on Kaust, and that was the deck's main problem. And obviously the main plays are Pleiades and Ptolemys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328305376' post='5797143'] Yes, it is. But Leonis tested very nice here. It actually gave the deck less dependance on Kaust, and that was the deck's main problem. And obviously the main plays are Pleiades and Ptolemys. [/quote] mfw you can rarely ever make Pleiades because of Leonis only being able to go up to Level 4 most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Professor Kokonoe' timestamp='1328305445' post='5797145'] mfw you can rarely ever make Pleiades because of Leonis only being able to go up to Level 4 most of the time. [/quote] yfw Leonis substitutes the Hand Traps and didn't change the main structure of the deck, and actually gave Sheratan an option of not stay lingering on the field open for an attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328305561' post='5797152'] yfw Leonis substitutes the Hand Traps and didn't change the main structure of the deck, and [b]actually gave Sheratan an option of not stay lingering on the field open for an attack[/b] [/quote] Are you bad? That's why you play Schet and Safe Zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 And I do play Schet And Safe Zone is not as good here as you think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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