Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Should be limited, if not put to two or three. Gadgets are bad, and what it comes down to is that this is a bad Gadget that can’t be used for Rank 4s. Discard cards are generally terrible and Dark Worlds or something can do it faster/better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plays4days Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 but phoenix wing wind blast will be meta again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Treeborn is better +1 during Standby Phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='plays4days' timestamp='1328932549' post='5809833'] but phoenix wing wind blast will be meta again [/quote] That sounds fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laskeri - Unmei no Senshi Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1328958134' post='5810206'] That sounds fun [/quote] I wouldn't like that with Time Seal @3 in this theoretic format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Laskeri - Unmei no Senshi' timestamp='1328969478' post='5810303'] I wouldn't like that with Time Seal @3 in this theoretic format. [/quote] What the f*** you on about man? Time Seal is a horrid card. People play Reckless Greed and still win. So what's the f***ing difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1328975564' post='5810446'] What the f*** you on about man? Time Seal is a horrid card. People play Reckless Greed and still win. So what's the f***ing difference? [/quote] People get advantage from Reckless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Kyosuke Kiryu' timestamp='1328976883' post='5810471'] People get advantage from Reckless... [/quote] You don't get much advantage from using Time seal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328978055' post='5810493'] You don't get much advantage from using Time seal. [/quote] herp derp DSF is a -1 yet it's still broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 I haven't played since December but, do people seriously use Reckless greed competitively now? As for Sinister Serpent, I don't quite now. It's recyclable discard food. Then again, how bad is that compared to other stuff we have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Kyosuke Kiryu' timestamp='1328978746' post='5810502'] herp derp DSF is a -1 yet it's still broken [/quote] DSF has 75 f*cking OTKs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Berry Punch~' timestamp='1328979101' post='5810509'] I haven't played since December but, do people seriously use Reckless greed competitively now? [/quote] People use it in Dark World Turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328979279' post='5810515'] DSF has 75 f*cking OTKs [/quote] This card makes cards with a cost, free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Kyosuke Kiryu' timestamp='1328979513' post='5810524'] This card makes cards with a cost, free. [/quote] Too bad all those cards are Lightning Vortex and Raigeki Break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 I don't even know why I'm arguing this I didn't even think I'd have to ever argue this. when stuff like PWWB and stuff become free, in a format like brandon is trying to create, then it's kinda bad for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 PWWB isn't exactly the most broken sh*t either. I also wanna see how you plan to consistently get this to your hand or Graveyard every single duel, then being able to have it in the hand with your PWWB every single duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 ITT: Gem-Knight Fusion doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328980346' post='5810555'] PWWB isn't exactly the most broken sh*t either. I also wanna see how you plan to consistently get this to your hand or Graveyard every single duel, then being able to have it in the hand with your PWWB every single duel. [/quote] Swap Frog Dupe Frog to get Swap Frog Foolish One for One Genex Undine Future Fusion Sangan Oshaleon Duality Gold Sarco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328980346' post='5810555'] PWWB isn't exactly the most broken sh*t either. I also wanna see how you plan to consistently get this to your hand or Graveyard every single duel, then being able to have it in the hand with your PWWB every single duel. [/quote] You clearly never played around April 2005. In a format like that, PWWB would be the s*** Brandon with this banlist is trying to recreate a format like that. Where it is based around one for one'ing your opponent and eventually outplaying them by making them lose resources. Thing is, with this card about, your cards that require a cost become costless and you will be able to outplay your opponent alot easier. That's not strictly outplaying your opponent, it doesn't require skilful to put Sinister Serpent in the graveyard to make everything free. oh yeah that's totally true it's the same with BLS, because you can't get it in your hand consistently it should be fine at one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Half of that s*** can be used for Treeborn, which is better. And ITT Swap dumps reptiles. [quote name='Kyosuke Kiryu' timestamp='1328980764' post='5810568'] You clearly never played around April 2005. [/quote] It's not 2005. More cards have been made that makes this obselete. And BLS has a much better effect, and I've never actually seen a problem with it at one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328980815' post='5810570'] Half of that s*** can be used for Treeborn, which is better. And ITT Swap dumps reptiles. It's not 2005. More cards have been made that makes this obselete. And BLS has a much better effect, and I've never actually seen a problem with it at one. [/quote] I know it's not 2005. But the fact that he's making a format that is similar to that makes this card retarded, it was so stupid back then, granted it will be not as good now because we don't have s*** like Graceful Charity. but it is a 141 format, if you make LV costless, a timely one of them will win you the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328980815' post='5810570'] Half of that s*** can be used for Treeborn, which is better. And ITT Swap dumps reptiles. It's not 2005. More cards have been made that makes this obselete. And BLS has a much better effect, and I've never actually seen a problem with it at one. [/quote] implying I care its reptile, just write over its original type, problem solved. Imo I dont really care if this comes back to 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 LV sucks anyway. It needs to be given some decent power to put it at the Dark Hole level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328980992' post='5810573'] LV sucks anyway. It needs to be given some decent power to put it at the Dark Hole level. [/quote] DARK HOLE IS BAD FOR THE GAME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Then why do people like Dark Hole @ 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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