Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1328932124' post='5809810'] So are your three Tsukuyomis. :3 [/quote] Difference is, I learned and cut it down to 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianGuy1137 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1328932075' post='5809806'] That's inconsistent and bad.[/quote] Yes, absolutely. I don't rely on the card itself so much as use it as insurance to overextend my backrow without getting it blown away with one card. It has almost no correlation with the player's skill so much as preference. You are a bad player for failing to recognize that. I'd be happy to prove it anytime on DN if you'd like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='AsianGuy1137' timestamp='1329102407' post='5813991'] Yes, absolutely. I don't rely on the card itself so much as use it as insurance to overextend my backrow without getting it blown away with one card. It has almost no correlation with the player's skill so much as preference. You are a bad player for failing to recognize that. I'd be happy to prove it anytime on DN if you'd like. [/quote] So I got banned from here for a week, but I'd love to take you up on this offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 It just occured to me, how would everything be affected if this card only destroyed face-ups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 i dont actually care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1329671486' post='5826920'] i dont actually care [/quote] Go die then. Just to be on topic on this post: Dark Hole is perfectly fine where it is. Monsters are easier to get back than Spell and Traps anyways. Though Dark Hole at 2 is too much Dark Holes. A Duel where up to 4 Dark Holes might be used (combining both players) sounds just a nuke contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1329671486' post='5826920'] i dont actually care [/quote] You're Brandon Format sucks ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Berry Punch~' timestamp='1329671785' post='5826931'] Go die then. Just to be on topic on this post: Dark Hole is perfectly fine where it is. Monsters are easier to get back than Spell and Traps anyways. Though Dark Hole at 2 is too much Dark Holes. A Duel where up to 4 Dark Holes might be used (combining both players) sounds just a nuke contest. [/quote] are you ok with torrential at 2 next format? i love the love coming from you too [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1329671854' post='5826932'] You're Brandon Format sucks ass. [/quote] well i scrapped it like a week ago so ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1329672102' post='5826939'] are you ok with torrential at 2 next format? i love the love coming from you too [/quote] Yes, I'm ok with Torrental more than Dark Hole. -You can stop torrental siding in Royal Decrees or some other generic anti-Trap Side Deck material, on top of Starlight Road. Dark Hole has what? Starlight Road and Solemn Judgment. -Torrental counters at the time of Summon. Meaning it's still your opponent's turn if you are not suicidal. The affected player still has the chance to adjust a bit before the end of the turn as an emergency measure. Sometimes even recover everything lost. -Dark Hole is (as said above) meant to destroy the aftermath. Since you clean the field on your own turn without the need of a guinea pig of your own (as it would be the case with Torrental), it's more "going for the OTK"-friendly. {EDIT: Also, when protecting yourself from the OTK move, Torrental is more effective than Dark Hole, as Dark Hole needs to wait for your turn, which may not have a chance to come. Making Torrental the more benefical choice anyways) and you are the one that started with the love :3 Asking about the effects of a hypothetical change on a discussion about the discussed card sounds like a legit topic question to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Berry Punch~' timestamp='1329672895' post='5826955'] Yes, I'm ok with Torrental more than Dark Hole. -You can stop torrental siding in Royal Decrees or some other generic anti-Trap Side Deck material, on top of Starlight Road. Dark Hole has what? Starlight Road and Solemn Judgment. -Torrental counters at the time of Summon. Meaning it's still your opponent's turn if you are not suicidal. The affected player still has the chance to adjust a bit before the end of the turn as an emergency measure. Sometimes even recover everything lost. -Dark Hole is (as said above) meant to destroy the aftermath. Since you clean the field on your own turn without the need of a guinea pig of your own (as it would be the case with Torrental), it's more "going for the OTK"-friendly. {EDIT: Also, when protecting yourself from the OTK move, Torrental is more effective than Dark Hole, as Dark Hole needs to wait for your turn, which may not have a chance to come. Making Torrental the more benefical choice anyways) and you are the one that started with the love :3 Asking about the effects of a hypothetical change on a discussion about the discussed card sounds like a legit topic question to me. [/quote] Torrential is more powerful. Dark Hole is worse /srs Dark Hole usually hits floaters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1329674286' post='5826990'] Torrential is more powerful. Dark Hole is worse /srs Dark Hole usually hits floaters [/quote] Torrental hits the same amount of monsters as Dark Hole you silly~ I like how you pretty much just dismissed my post's content and kept repeating youself there. Torrental is more versatile, more counterable, and requires wise judgment when activating it. Dark Hole just so happens to be ok at 1 like Heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Berry Punch~' timestamp='1329674729' post='5827010'] Torrental hits the same amount of monsters as Dark Hole you silly~ I like how you pretty much just dismissed my post's content and kept repeating youself there. Torrental is more versatile, more counterable, and requires wise judgment when activating it. Dark Hole just so happens to be ok at 1 like Heavy. [/quote] No it doesnt. They take their f***ers and make a zenmaines or something. You torrential before that, which is good. Dark Hole would be subpar against a zenmaines I kept repeating myself because your points are bad and i wanted to disregard them. Versatility is too good and Torrential is too powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1329674968' post='5827021'] No it doesnt. They take their f***ers and make a zenmaines or something. You torrential before that, which is good. Dark Hole would be subpar against a zenmaines I kept repeating myself because your points are bad and i wanted to disregard them. Versatility is too good and Torrential is too powerful. [/quote] Most of the versatility of Torrental is for defensive tactics. It's a case of more useful and promoting more smart play, which =/= more broken. Stopping Zenmaines is good, which is another point in favor of Torrental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Berry Punch~' timestamp='1329675598' post='5827044'] Most of the versatility of Torrental is for defensive tactics. It's a case of more useful and promoting more smart play, which =/= more broken. Stopping Zenmaines is good, which is another point in favor of Torrental. [/quote] so do you like to have your plays disrupted 2 times per game and have another dark hole per game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1329675725' post='5827051'] so do you like to have your plays disrupted 2 times per game and have another dark hole per game [/quote] No one likes to, but I'd have more of a chance against 2 Torrentals + 1 Dark Hole than against 2 Dark Holes + 1 Torrental. Your format is almost no different than having 1 Dark Hole + 1 Raigeki. Which sucks really =/ A decent amount of the time Torrental is gonna be more like a Trap Hole really. If you wanna ban Trap Hole, that's your thing. EDIT: I want someone else to enter in this conversation. 2 opinions is not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Berry Punch~' timestamp='1329675897' post='5827058'] EDIT: I want someone else to enter in this conversation. 2 opinions is not enough. [/quote] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ[/url] /srs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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