Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Should be banned. Card is part of loops that are bad for the game and will always be able to be pulled off. Getting rid of all of Hand, Field, and Grave is amazing. Loops aside, just putting this thing on the board can lead to too much advantage to even think about keeping it around. Mist Wurm isn't any more skillful, but it leaves a decent level 9 Synchro option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Nah I wouldn't mind this staying at 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 [quote name='RAEGING DOGKING' timestamp='1328827552' post='5806842'] Nah I wouldn't mind this staying at 1. [/quote] Explain to me with good logic why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 It would be a nice thing to ban this on your hypothetical format, and Mist Wurm is not that bad of a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Ban it forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1328827611' post='5806846'] Explain to me with good logic why [/quote] because I can use it, lawl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeal Ascendant Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Yeah, mist worm is fine as a level 9 synch and this is just really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 I don't think it needs to be banned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='RAEGING DOGKING' timestamp='1328827911' post='5806857'] because I can use it, lawl [/quote] That's a really stupid excuse. The card does need to be banned because it's absolutely absurd 2700 Beater Synchro pays for itself upon summon by completely killing the Opponent's strategies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 It's a +1 Synchro... That's all that needs to be said about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1328887618' post='5808443'] It's a +1 Synchro... That's all that needs to be said about it. [/quote] 1. Invest 3 cards to summon it ( -3 ) 2. Get out 1 Trishula ( +1 ) 3. Remove 1 from hand ( +1 ) 4. Remove 1 from field ( +1 ) 5. Remove 1 from grave ( net 0 ) -3 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 0 Unless you use floaters to Summon it, or you gained advantage to get out the materials (Debris Dragon etc), it is a net 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1328888091' post='5808455'] 1. Invest 3 cards to summon it ( -3 ) 2. Get out 1 Trishula ( +1 ) 3. Remove 1 from hand ( +1 ) 4. Remove 1 from field ( +1 ) 5. Remove 1 from grave ( net 0 ) -3 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 0 Unless you use floaters to Summon it, or you gained advantage to get out the materials (Debris Dragon etc), it is a net 0. [/quote] Fine, net 0 with a grave removal. Good enough to count as a +1 with the state of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1328888091' post='5808455'] 1. Invest 3 cards to summon it ( -3 ) 2. Get out 1 Trishula ( +1 ) 3. Remove 1 from hand ( +1 ) 4. Remove 1 from field ( +1 ) 5. Remove 1 from grave ( net 0 ) -3 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 0 Unless you use floaters to Summon it, or you gained advantage to get out the materials (Debris Dragon etc), it is a net 0. [/quote] And in doing this you completely screw your opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1328888240' post='5808461'] And in doing this you completely screw your opponent. [/quote] I wouldn't say that. More often than not, if the opponent has stuff set up to where you need Trish to screw them, they've already got it, or have a backup. Either way, IMHO, I'd keep it @1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='Cifer' timestamp='1328888466' post='5808466'] I wouldn't say that. More often than not, if the opponent has stuff set up to where you need Trish to screw them, they've already got it, or have a backup. Either way, IMHO, I'd keep it @1. [/quote] Ok, I'll just remove your Monsters from play, banish your Important Card in the Graveyard X and hit card Y in your hand. And now I summon Tour Guide and go Leviair and take your Monster and attack with all 3 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1328888889' post='5808474'] Ok, I'll just remove your Monsters from play, banish your Important Card in the Graveyard X and hit card Y in your hand. And now I summon Tour Guide and go Leviair and take your Monster and attack with all 3 of them. [/quote] Cool. Again, fairly easy for decks to come back from that now. I've seen that move more than once. Again, my opinion. Tish can stay at 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 [quote name='Cifer' timestamp='1328889614' post='5808485'] Again, my opinion. Tish can stay at 1. [/quote] Yea, that's valid and all, but it's still a stupidly designed card and in a Player Made format I'd personally ban it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plays4days Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Agents and Plants are like, the only meta decks that let this card be playable. and they are most likely getting hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 But something else will always use this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Absolutely DESPISE how it's worded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 If you don't win the game after sucessfully getting this card's effect off at some point you seriously should quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Kyosuke Kiryu' timestamp='1328958011' post='5810203'] If you don't win the game after sucessfully getting this card's effect off at some point you seriously should quit [/quote] Yes because you could avoid being unlucky and not hitting the out the opponent had in his hand. Or because you're obviously supposed to be able to banish all 4 of the outs in your opponent's Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328960599' post='5810213'] Yes because you could avoid being unlucky and not hitting the out the opponent had in his hand. Or because you're obviously supposed to be able to banish all 4 of the outs in your opponent's Graveyard. [/quote] why would you just randomly summon trish like that though? You don't just drop a boss monster without protection lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Kyosuke Kiryu' timestamp='1328973562' post='5810393'] why would you just randomly summon trish like that though? You don't just drop a boss monster without protection lol [/quote] There is always a counter. Dropping a boss doesn't guarantee you the win, even with protection. It just makes it easier. Doesn't help when your opponent's packing some pretty big heat in their hand that you manage to miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1328979418' post='5810521'] There is always a counter. Dropping a boss doesn't guarantee you the win, even with protection. It just makes it easier. Doesn't help when your opponent's packing some pretty big heat in their hand that you manage to miss. [/quote] There isn't much someone can do to Trish + Solemn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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