Althemia Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329090211' post='5813337'] It would still be a Rank 3 spam deck with 1 Zenmaighty. And don't say you need the Rank 3 loop, triple Zenmaighty isn't exactly a field to be feared. [/quote] Yeah, but then Konami would have to be scared of "Return ??? cards in your Graveyard to the Deck" cards because of the fact that Hunter existed. Ban Hunter. It just solves the entire thing in one go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329090211' post='5813337'] And don't say you need the Rank 3 loop, triple Zenmaighty isn't exactly a field to be feared. [/quote] limiter removal...? 3000+3000+3000+3000 is well... a metric f*** ton of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twilight sparkle Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Wind-Ups still have a whirlwind you need to address. And the deck is very much playable even if Hunter were banned, what you would want is to put Zenmaighty to 0 and Factory to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 There is only 1 solution! [img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3435/3982080607_4dc9729015.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 [quote name='twilight sparkle' timestamp='1329090434' post='5813343'] Wind-Ups still have a whirlwind you need to address. And the deck is very much playable even if Hunter were banned, what you would want is to put Zenmaighty to 0 and Factory to 1 [/quote] We want the deck to STAY playable, not f*ck it over until it dies in a blazing fire of hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329090591' post='5813352'] We want the deck to STAY playable, not f*ck it over until it dies in a blazing fire of hatred. [/quote] This. The deck works in a sort of... Avalanche fashion. A card moves(Hunter) and then a bit more(Rat) and then a f***ing avalanche follows(Zenmaighty into 12k damage or hand rape) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 My view on it is: be patient, wait for a bit for the list to come out, instead of posting crappy fake lists. :S We'll find out when we find out, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 sad thing is... Damage Avalanche is still a decent, consistent like f*** deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twilight sparkle Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 the way I see it, the deck is blackwings. take down DSF (I would equate this to zenmaighty or zenmaines) for the love of G-d. The deck is still playable, it will just be slower, and may be more stun oriented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 [quote name='twilight sparkle' timestamp='1329090802' post='5813365'] the way I see it, the deck is blackwings. take down DSF (I would equate this to zenmaighty or zenmaines) for the love of G-d. The deck is still playable, it will just be slower, and may be more stun oriented. [/quote] ... How the f*ck is Zenmaines the problem? We're trying to get rid of the loop, not the Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Zenmaighty is nowhere near the league of DSF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 ITT: Zenmaighty isn't broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twilight sparkle Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 everyone has to play maxx "C" because of zenmaighty (among other things like tour guide). back then, everyone had to play Threatening Roar to deal with DSF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 [quote name='twilight sparkle' timestamp='1329091021' post='5813376'] everyone has to play maxx "C" because of zenmaighty (among other things like tour guide). back then, everyone had to play Threatening Roar to deal with DSF. [/quote] No, no we don't. We have to play maxx "C" because the format we have is big on Special Summoning and controlling the field. And once again, Zenmaighty =/= DSF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Relevant because it talks about the loop. http://yu-gi-pros.blogspot.com/2012/02/card-of-day-16-2122012-wind-up-shark.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twilight sparkle Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 The OCG doesn't need to play Maxx "C", mostly because TGU doesn't exist, so its only live when the opponent is going for game. Maxx "C" is very much needed here not only because of TGU, but also because if wind-ups summon this thing, you need it to stop them from beating you then and there. DSF and Threatening Roar were in a similar situation, since if DSF got any amount of damage on you, its later effect would go for game. thus, stopping battle damage was a big thing. Also, GBs were a big thing too, atleast for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 But they can still do lots of stuff with 1 Zenmaighty ._. Limit the boat and everything is solved. Hunter is perfectly fine design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='-Greiga-' timestamp='1329091258' post='5813387'] Relevant because it talks about the loop. [url="http://yu-gi-pros.blogspot.com/2012/02/card-of-day-16-2122012-wind-up-shark.html"]http://yu-gi-pros.bl...d-up-shark.html[/url] [/quote] get the actual f*** out of ycm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 What the hell did I do? The current subject is the loop so I linked to the post because I talk about the loop and Shark's involvement, plus it shows the roles Zenmaighty and Hunter and Rat actually play in the deck, to a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='-Greiga-' timestamp='1329092117' post='5813426'] What the hell did I do? The current subject is the loop so I linked to the post because I talk about the loop and Shark's involvement, plus it shows the roles Zenmaighty and Hunter and Rat actually play in the deck, to a point. [/quote] But that was so f***ing generic and obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1329092021' post='5813422'] get the actual f*** out of ycm [/quote] I THOUGHT CANADIANS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE FRIENDLY AND NICE AND WELCOMING. Also you didn't end your sentence in aye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twilight sparkle Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Shark allows the deck to be played even if something were to happen to Hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='-Berserker-' timestamp='1329089656' post='5813310'] It may get hit... I say it because I found this list that is totally credible because it's in japanese (don't take me that seriously) [b] 東京 「禁止カード」 Forbidden ゼンマイハンター Mainspring Hunter (Wind-Up Hunter) 貪欲な壺 Jar of Avarice (Pot of Avarice) 未来融合－フューチャー・フュージョン Future Fusion 「?なる?術? (unknown card) Limited 「制限カード」 増殖するＧ Increasing G (Maxx C) 強欲で謙虚な壺 Pot of Greederosity (Pot of Duality) 強欲な壺 Jar of Greed (Pot of Greed) 王宮の弾圧 Oppression of the Royal Palace (Royal Oppression) エヴォルカイザー・ラギア Evolkaiser Lagia 虚空海竜リヴァイエール Empty Space Sea Dragon Leviair (Leviair The Sea Dragon) を破??する?自分??? (unknown card) Semi-Limited 「準制限カード」 レスキューラビット Rescue rabbit 甲虫装機 ホーネット Inzektor Hornet マスター・ヒュペリオン Master Hyperion 暗黒界の龍神 グラファ Dragon God of Dark World - Grapha 真炎の爆発 Pureflame Eruption (Rekindling)[/b] Of course, I have no source, as this guy in facebook posted this in our YGO group... [/quote] that list is so fake hunter is so stupid and the deck needs to be hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='.Nu-13' timestamp='1329092207' post='5813431'] But that was so f***ing generic and obvious. [/quote] But it was actually on topic unlike a good majority of TCG posts, and why are you expecting something specific from an article on Wind-Up Shark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='-Greiga-' timestamp='1329092117' post='5813426'] What the hell did I do? The current subject is the loop so I linked to the post because I talk about the loop and Shark's involvement, plus it shows the roles Zenmaighty and Hunter and Rat actually play in the deck, to a point. [/quote] Don't post links to your blog, nobody cares. Especially when you're blog's content is full of s*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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