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[quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329090211' post='5813337']
It would still be a Rank 3 spam deck with 1 Zenmaighty.

And don't say you need the Rank 3 loop, triple Zenmaighty isn't exactly a field to be feared.
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Yeah, but then Konami would have to be scared of "Return ??? cards in your Graveyard to the Deck" cards because of the fact that Hunter existed. Ban Hunter. It just solves the entire thing in one go.

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[quote name='twilight sparkle' timestamp='1329090434' post='5813343']
Wind-Ups still have a whirlwind you need to address. And the deck is very much playable even if Hunter were banned, what you would want is to put Zenmaighty to 0 and Factory to 1
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We want the deck to STAY playable, not f*ck it over until it dies in a blazing fire of hatred.

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[quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329090591' post='5813352']
We want the deck to STAY playable, not f*ck it over until it dies in a blazing fire of hatred.
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This. The deck works in a sort of... Avalanche fashion. A card moves(Hunter) and then a bit more(Rat) and then a f***ing avalanche follows(Zenmaighty into 12k damage or hand rape)

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[quote name='twilight sparkle' timestamp='1329090802' post='5813365']
the way I see it, the deck is blackwings. take down DSF (I would equate this to zenmaighty or zenmaines) for the love of G-d. The deck is still playable, it will just be slower, and may be more stun oriented.
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How the f*ck is Zenmaines the problem?
We're trying to get rid of the loop, not the Deck.

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[quote name='twilight sparkle' timestamp='1329091021' post='5813376']
everyone has to play maxx "C" because of zenmaighty (among other things like tour guide).

back then, everyone had to play Threatening Roar to deal with DSF.
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No, no we don't. We have to play maxx "C" because the format we have is big on Special Summoning and controlling the field.

And once again, Zenmaighty =/= DSF.

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The OCG doesn't need to play Maxx "C", mostly because TGU doesn't exist, so its only live when the opponent is going for game.
Maxx "C" is very much needed here not only because of TGU, but also because if wind-ups summon this thing, you need it to stop them from beating you then and there. DSF and Threatening Roar were in a similar situation, since if DSF got any amount of damage on you, its later effect would go for game. thus, stopping battle damage was a big thing. Also, GBs were a big thing too, atleast for a while.

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[quote name='-Greiga-' timestamp='1329092117' post='5813426']
What the hell did I do? The current subject is the loop so I linked to the post because I talk about the loop and Shark's involvement, plus it shows the roles Zenmaighty and Hunter and Rat actually play in the deck, to a point.
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But that was so f***ing generic and obvious.

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[quote name='-Berserker-' timestamp='1329089656' post='5813310']
It may get hit... I say it because I found this list that is totally credible because it's in japanese (don't take me that seriously)
[b] 東京 「禁止カード」 Forbidden
ゼンマイハンター Mainspring Hunter (Wind-Up Hunter)
貪欲な壺 Jar of Avarice (Pot of Avarice)
未来融合-フューチャー・フュージョン Future Fusion
「?なる?術? (unknown card)

Limited 「制限カード」
増殖するG Increasing G (Maxx C)
強欲で謙虚な壺 Pot of Greederosity (Pot of Duality)
強欲な壺 Jar of Greed (Pot of Greed)
王宮の弾圧 Oppression of the Royal Palace (Royal Oppression)
エヴォルカイザー・ラギア Evolkaiser Lagia
虚空海竜リヴァイエール Empty Space Sea Dragon Leviair (Leviair The Sea Dragon)
を破??する?自分??? (unknown card)

Semi-Limited 「準制限カード」
レスキューラビット Rescue rabbit 甲虫装機 
ホーネット Inzektor Hornet
マスター・ヒュペリオン Master Hyperion
暗黒界の龍神 グラファ Dragon God of Dark World - Grapha
真炎の爆発 Pureflame Eruption (Rekindling)[/b]

Of course, I have no source, as this guy in facebook posted this in our YGO group...
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that list is so fake
hunter is so stupid and the deck needs to be hit

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[quote name='-Greiga-' timestamp='1329092117' post='5813426']
What the hell did I do? The current subject is the loop so I linked to the post because I talk about the loop and Shark's involvement, plus it shows the roles Zenmaighty and Hunter and Rat actually play in the deck, to a point.
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Don't post links to your blog, nobody cares. Especially when you're blog's content is full of s***

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