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[quote name='Verz Bahamut' timestamp='1329577961' post='5824572']
This at two makes me want to shoot people.

Come on Konami, why put this at 2?
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[quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1329577186' post='5824543']
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And it can help kill Inzektors and Wind-ups etc.

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[quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1329578025' post='5824577']
Better question is, Why is Luster still@1?
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That too.

As much as it is one of my favourite cards, I really want it to go away again now.

[quote name='~~Xiahou Dun~~' timestamp='1329578057' post='5824580']
TT@2 is good, what are you on about?
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It's a mindless nuke. I hate mindless nukes :(

[quote name='Thunder End Dragon' timestamp='1329578093' post='5824584']
And it can help kill Inzektors and Wind-ups etc.
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It kills most things.

Without any real effort.

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[quote name='Verz Bahamut' timestamp='1329578300' post='5824592']
It kills most things.
Without any real effort.
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Exactly. I'm just taking it as their apology for not hitting newer decks. They have their money-lust reasons, but they're giving us this to give us a chance.... *sigh*. Next format. Next format.

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This at 2 is a good thing. It means that people have to hold onto their MSTs and Heavy Storms until they actually want to make big plays now, they just can't blind MST any more.

Also, to anyone complaining about this coming to 2. Why? This is an extremely cheap card so most people will be able to afford it. If anything, Konami made the game a bit more budget for you.

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[quote name='Professor Kokonoe' timestamp='1329578975' post='5824600']
This at 2 is a good thing. It means that people have to hold onto their MSTs and Heavy Storms until they actually want to make big plays now, they just can't blind MST any more.
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That's not really a good argument for it because that's not really a change. Last format we had TT@1, Warning, Judgment, Fiendish, and to some extent, stuff like D-Prison and Compulse. Blind MSTing being bad is nothing new.

Although I will admit banning dustshoot makes blind, namely end-phase MSTing worse.

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[quote name='- Zeal -' timestamp='1329579407' post='5824606']
That's not really a good argument for it because that's not really a change. Last format we had TT@1, Warning, Judgment, Fiendish, and to some extent, stuff like D-Prison and Compulse. Blind MSTing being bad is nothing new.

Although I will admit banning dustshoot makes blind, namely end-phase MSTing worse.
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You're implying that good players set MST, if I understood this right.

Also I know that it wasn't exactly the best presented argument, but it is a change. You could blind MST some backrows, but the thing you can't now unless you're sure you can go off.

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TT @2 is a terrible idea.

The skill behind Torrential wasn't only playing around it, but also playing it.

Now you don't have to think when you should set off your first nuke, since your opponent's still going to be scared of the second one anyway. It doesn't promote any sort of skill in the game and instead deters from it into a mindless game of luck.

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[quote name='Evil Tristan' timestamp='1329583084' post='5824717']
TT @2 is a terrible idea.

The skill behind Torrential wasn't only playing around it, but also playing it.

Now you don't have to think when you should set off your first nuke, since your opponent's still going to be scared of the second one anyway. It doesn't promote any sort of skill in the game and instead deters from it into a mindless game of luck.
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The banlist is obviously fake, wait till the 21st. If it's the real banlist Konami are idiotic.

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