Northern Sage Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 [img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/7/7c/WindUpCarrierZenmaity-ORCS-EN-UR-1E.jpg[/img] I really hope people can read that. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Ban it. Anything that Special Summons from the deck without restrictions REALLY needs a look-over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Limit it, ban Hunter /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Here's the joke. People aren't actually raving for it. I had an ulti at my locals this past weekend and no one would buy it for sh*t. Was pissin me off. Well now I have an Ulti Zenmaighty. Guess I should build Wind-Ups...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Deserves the ban more than Hunter, but it won't be banned until it manages to do stuff @1 with Hunter @0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='Sakuya' timestamp='1331550483' post='5867369'] Ban it. Anything that Special Summons from the deck without restrictions REALLY needs a look-over. [/quote] Yeah, for the same reason "Witch of the Black Fores" was banned (and it has weaker effect!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 But wind-ups aren't as bad as people think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='TheTurtleOnceCalledGod' timestamp='1331563290' post='5867509'] But wind-ups aren't as bad as people think... [/quote] just because they're not THE best deck this format doesn't mean they aren't Tier 1, and it most certainly does not mean an Xyz that brings a monster out of the deck for no cost and no drawbacks is, in any way, good design. It's comparable to Formula Synchron on crack. also, I just remembered it had a second effect O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Better yet, just Limit it to either 1 or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Limit hunter to 1 and advise people to maindeck D.D. Crow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Where is it's HEAD? Things that konami should ninja kick: This/ hunter THE DAM RABBIT Hornet/Dragonfly Good support, but If hunter didn't exist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted March 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='⌈Remote⌋' timestamp='1331563963' post='5867528'] Where is it's F***ING HEAD? This thing is just stupid. [/quote] Fixed. (reference get?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1331563762' post='5867522'] Limit hunter to 1 and advise people to maindeck D.D. Crow. [/quote] [quote name='⌈Remote⌋' timestamp='1331563963' post='5867528'] Where is it's HEAD? Things that konami should ninja kick: This/ hunter THE DAM RABBIT Hornet/Dragonfly Good support, but If hunter didn't exist... [/quote] First off, Hunter came first. Then there's the fact that people only run 1 Hunter and that Hunter's actually good design that was broken by this. You know, broken ass support that shouldn't exist? This is what's broken, not Hunter, but, even at 1, this can still loop and such, so Hunter has to go. But, this is still really damn broken, and wind-ups can still pull off a lot of combos with even /1/ of the boat. And the head is in the front, the blue section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='⌈Remote⌋' timestamp='1331563963' post='5867528'] Where is it's HEAD? [/quote]At the front. In between the two gears. Not that tough to see. OT: Card is stupid. That is a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1331564860' post='5867540'] First off, Hunter came first. Then there's the fact that people only run 1 Hunter and that Hunter's actually good design that was broken by this. You know, broken ass support that shouldn't exist? This is what's broken, not Hunter, but, even at 1, this can still loop and such, so Hunter has to go. But, this is still really damn broken, and wind-ups can still pull off a lot of combos with even /1/ of the boat. And the head is in the front, the blue section. [/quote]If Hunter had not existed, then Wind-Ups would be a viable deck that actually has to think instead of "Hand loop gg" and a few other options. And I honestly thought the gears were its eyes and it's what I can identify as it's head was a smile. No joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='⌈Remote⌋' timestamp='1331565799' post='5867549'] If Hunter had not existed, then Wind-Ups would be a viable deck that actually has to think instead of "Hand loop gg" and a few other options. And I honestly thought the gears were its eyes and it's what I can identify as it's head was a smile. No joke. [/quote] They require a lot of thought, you can't just constantly "Hand Loop GG" ._. Hunter isn't the problem, the boat is, but the boat is so problematic it has to be @0 or it can still loop, yet Konami won't ban their Xyz. Zenmaity is horrible design and should never have been made, loop or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 I beat rabbit without using my extra but boat makes for huge plays without hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 I should probably just say that I have faced Wind-Ups once ever and They just hand looped me to death. I know NOTHING about them, They just seem like they can't bring out very high ATK stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='⌈Remote⌋' timestamp='1331566838' post='5867565'] I should probably just say that I have faced Wind-Ups once ever and They just hand looped me to death. I know NOTHING about them, They just seem like they can't bring out very high ATK stuff. [/quote][img]http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/16126182.jpg[/img] If you don't know anything about them then WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ARGUING? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welche the crab Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Should have been LV 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1331567305' post='5867574'] If you don't know anything about them then WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ARGUING? [/quote]I didn't mean I knew nothing, I meant I knew less than most of the other decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='⌈Remote⌋' timestamp='1331571692' post='5867642'] I didn't mean I knew nothing, I meant I knew less than most of the other decks. [/quote]But you DO know nothing. You've played against the deck a single time. That tells you nothing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 I've also observed what people have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Threads like this are what happens when YCM free-thinks in a sealed manner. tl;dr Hunter 0/Zenmaity 1 That would discourage looping for wins while keeping Wind-Ups a viable option. Well, let's just see how this would work in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 [quote name='Dragon Sage Ω' timestamp='1331564036' post='5867530'] Fixed. (reference get?) [/quote] FFVII, Barret (on Jenova)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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