Resident Fascist Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shuffle"]Shuffle[/url] 1 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon"]Dragon[/url]-[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Type"]Type[/url] monster from your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand"]hand[/url] into your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Deck"]Deck[/url], then add 1 Dragon-Type monster from your Deck to your hand with the same [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Level"]Level[/url] as the monster you shuffled into the Deck.[/quote] Also this is the type of TCG exclusive I hate. An already popular, near top-tier deck, RECIEVING MORE support? In like the 35 games I played with the deck, I almost always: A) Won B) Won on my first turn if going second, or my second turn if going first. Oh, also this type of support can't be hit because TCG/OCG obviously don't communicate at all, which is really dumb by the way. Or maybe they do, but they seemingly don't know how to hit TCG exclusives with the exception of Tengu and Allure. Though Tengu was only semi'd to shove the final nail in the coffin for Synchros, and I wouldn't be suprised if PSZ and synchros start going next. I know it's bad but it's overkill ._. Dedicate pack space to what needs it, not giving bad support to almost meta decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 wtf. you use this to swap pulsar for tefuni or shu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 wtf, you don't use this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='evilchris' timestamp='1332012313' post='5875126'] wtf, you don't use this. [/quote] How do you know this? I'm going to need an explaination before I can believe you to be honest. It swaps out dead cards for basicially OTKs and makes Dragons more consistent. If Heirios didn't exist, I'd love this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1332012537' post='5875127'] How do you know this? I'm going to need an explaination before I can believe you to be honest. It swaps out dead cards for basicially OTKs and makes Dragons more consistent. If Heirios didn't exist, I'd love this card. [/quote] It's a -1, and a relatively situational one. I'd run Reckless before I considered running this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Heiros already have a +0 search. They don't need this -1 restricted search and won't use it outside of techs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1332012537' post='5875127'] How do you know this? I'm going to need an explaination before I can believe you to be honest. It swaps out dead cards for basicially OTKs and makes Dragons more consistent. If Heirios didn't exist, I'd love this card. [/quote] It's terrible and Hieros are like my favorite deck this format. Ask Chris or anyone like that, they know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='evilchris' timestamp='1332012581' post='5875128'] It's a -1, and a relatively situational one. I'd run Reckless before I considered running this. [/quote] [quote name='evilkokonoe' timestamp='1332012663' post='5875130'] It's terrible and Hieros are like my favorite deck this format. Ask Chris or anyone like that, they know. [/quote] Hmm. Ok. My logic is flawed. But I still don't get why they are supporting an already meta worthy deck. If they print more level 5 hierios that are good, what will happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1332012066' post='5875120'] but they seemingly don't know how to hit TCG exclusives with the exception of Tengu and Allure. [/quote]Tengu started being bad anyway and wasn't in everything. And allure went to 3 once OCG got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 It sounds cool, but it does nothing big for the Deck. Or really any Deck with Dragon-based strategies. When mentioned in regards to my Photon Sanctuary Deck, since the two main aces, Galaxy-Eyes and LADD, are both Level 8 Dragons, I noted that there will probably never be a REAL situation where the ability to exchange one for the other in the form of a -1 Spell will be considered "good". I would consider Galaxy Queen's Light as a tech in the form of a -1 with massive combo potential, but definitely not this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 At first, I thought it was broken. I do apologize for causing a large racket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 /shard thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 However is seemingly decent in any other Dragon Deck...which is nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1332017405' post='5875241'] /shard thread [/quote] I overreacted, granted. I know I'm bad at yugioh so please, don't act like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [size=3][quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1332017771' post='5875249'] I know I'm bad at yugioh[/size] [size=2][size=3][/quote][/size][s]You said you quit it like over 9000 times now[/s][/size] Just a meh card for a AFJKLMNOP archetype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 This card isn't even worth running in Distaster Dragon. Garbage card is garbage. The only reason somebody might concievably use this is in Exodia Dragons, and even then I wouldn't run it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 The idea isn't simply that it's a -1. It's supposed to be thought of a -1 that sets up a ridiculously large about of +1s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332021282' post='5875356'] The idea isn't simply that it's a -1. It's supposed to be thought of a -1 that sets up a ridiculously large about of +1s. [/quote] Not when you could run better cards for the purpose of getting massive +1s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1332021320' post='5875357'] Not when you could run better cards for the purpose of getting massive +1s. [/quote]True, but the fact that it's a -1 can't be used as an argument against it. It was made to do what others do better. That doesn't make it bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332021397' post='5875362'] True, but the fact that it's a -1 can't be used as an argument against it. It was made to do what others do better. That doesn't make it bad. [/quote] What makes it bad are all the reasons Photon Viel is bad. In addition to being a -1, it dead draws frequently, the cards it sends back aren't usually dead draws if you made your deck correctly, and the restriction on the card is stupid. What really takes the cake is that this card only searches Dragons that are the same level as the returned monster. In other words, no Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon, no White Stone of Legend, no Darkpulsar Dragon under most builds, and no Dark Armed Dragon. In other words, all the cards you would search with this thing are cards that it can't search unless you build your deck badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1332022033' post='5875375'] What makes it bad are all the reasons Photon Viel is bad. In addition to being a -1, it dead draws frequently, the cards it sends back aren't usually dead draws if you made your deck correctly, and the restriction on the card is stupid. What really takes the cake is that this card only searches Dragons that are the same level as the returned monster. In other words, no Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon, no White Stone of Legend, no Darkpulsar Dragon under most builds, and no Dark Armed Dragon. In other words, all the cards you would search with this thing are cards that it can't search unless you build your deck badly. [/quote]But there isn't a card called Darkpulsar Dragon... and you can't be talking about Darkflare or Lightpulsar, cause no one should run those anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332023580' post='5875422'] But there isn't a card called Darkpulsar Dragon... and you can't be talking about Darkflare or Lightpulsar, cause no one should run those anyway... [/quote] I meant Lightpulsar, and if you think Lightpulsar is bad in Disaster Dragons, you've clearly never played it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1332023867' post='5875435'] I meant Lightpulsar, and if you think Lightpulsar is bad in Disaster Dragons, you've clearly never played it. [/quote]...you understand who you're talking to, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332021397' post='5875362'] True, but the fact that it's a -1 can't be used as an argument against it. It was made to do what others do better. That doesn't make it bad. [/quote] We never used that as the pure argument. The argument was that it was a -1 with conditions on it's use while they already have a +0 search with no conditions. It's not like Foolish that can easily set up, you actually have to meet some condition other than having this card in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 I think this card is more effective with low level dragons where you switch a level 3 dragon in your hand for a masked dragon and use it as protection/Deck thininer in away for an idea for this cards use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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