wiithepeople Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 The "Inca" cards are a set of monsters that made their debut appearance in Rex Goodwin's Turbo Duel Deck in the Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's anime (In Episodes 62-64). Each of the key monsters have effects sharing a common ground with each other in that they activate while in the Graveyard, and they all involve the Special Summon of a monster or the adding of a monster into the hand. In this case, cards similar to Skill Drain and cards that involve destruction of monsters on the field such as Dark Hole will not affect these monsters in most cases as any monsters destroyed will quickly bring new monsters to the field or add key monsters into the hand. As opposed to what many people believe it is, the monsters in this deck were made as "mindgame" monsters, similar to the later archetypes such as Nordic Beasts and Wind-Up. The two ace monsters, however, tell a much different story, showing their powers rather than just concealing them. The tech choices that can be fitted alongside these monsters are fairly widespread, as many tech cards can help call forth these two potent aces in no time. So, without further ado, let's see what these monsters are. [spoiler=Fire Ant Ascator. This card is the key card in calling out for Inti, god of the sun in Incan culture. This card, just like the others, actvates its effect in the Graveyard, however its effect only can be activated if destroyed by battle. This doesn't seem to be a big problem, however, as its low ATK/DEF helps that cause and when it does get its effect, any Level 5 can pop out of the Graveyard.][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100424201803/yugioh/images/thumb/a/a9/FireAntAscatorABPF-EN-C-1E.jpg/300px-FireAntAscatorABPF-EN-C-1E.jpg[/img] [/spoiler] [spoiler=Supay. It is the only Tuner capable of Summoning Mama Quilla, goddess of the moon. This evil little piece of wood can really hit your opponent harder than a 2x4. It turns Torrential Tributes, Dark Holes, and other monster-popping cards into potential pluses, calling forth an Oracle of the Sun with 2000 ATK. If running a Meklord Emperor hybrid deck, a Wisel/Granel + 2000 ATK Oracle is an intimidating combo. Believe it or not, if your opponent is stupid enough to Solemn this, it STILL grabs Oracle because it was destroyed by a card effect.][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100424205232/yugioh/images/thumb/5/59/SupayABPF-EN-C-1E.jpg/300px-SupayABPF-EN-C-1E.jpg[/img][/spoiler] [spoiler=Oracle of the Sun. This ancient Cyber Dragon-like monster can be the start of big plays. With its ATK at 1000, it's a snap to Special Summon via Limit Reverse, and in a pinch, 2000 DEF is really nice too. Just like Supay, Solemn cards and Rai-Oh can't stop it from giving unto you a free Ascator or Supay.][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100621173723/yugioh/images/thumb/c/c3/OracleoftheSunABPF-EN-SR-1E.jpg/300px-OracleoftheSunABPF-EN-SR-1E.jpg[/img][/spoiler] [spoiler=Apocatequil. This card serves as the beatstick in this archetype, but I wouldn't recommend it. It's effect (once again) can't be stopped by Solemns or Skill Drain, so it has a few things going for it.][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100208140841/yugioh/images/thumb/a/a3/ApocatequilABPF-EN-C-1E.png/300px-ApocatequilABPF-EN-C-1E.png[/img][/spoiler] [spoiler=Weeping Idol. Again, I don't see this as a viable card with the Inca monsters. However, if you are looking for a quick fix in banishing Tuners to bring back with Leviair or something, this isn't too bad in doing that job.][img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100424205024/yugioh/images/thumb/1/14/WeepingIdolABPF-EN-C-1E.jpg/300px-WeepingIdolABPF-EN-C-1E.jpg[/img][/spoiler] [spoiler=Inti and Quilla. Husband and Wife respectively and the two most important and most known gods of the Incan culture. As these two appear to be separate beings, just like marriage, they truly do act as one. Even though the Inca monsters can easily bring out 6s and 8s and many will rather bring out Brionac or Stardust, the revival loop these two create is nearly invincible. The paternal figure destroys whatever killed it in battle, whatever it may be, and can inflict a large amount of damage, and even if Skill Drain is on the field, Inti will call in his wife to make and serve sandwiches of DEATH next turn. The maternal figure heals your wounds like a First-Aid kit if it gets destroyed by battle, and just like her husband, tags in the counterpart. Do note that as per rulings, Inti and Quilla's effects DO NOT TARGET, so that's actually a nice boost in their combined usefulness. Overall, these two aren't the best 8 and 6, but they are very deadly with assistances such as Skill Drain and others. In fact, they are two of the few Synchros overall who are not hampered by Skill Drain in the slightest. It's no wonder that I consider them my favorite ace monsters.][img]http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs45/f/2009/164/6/5/Moon_Dragon_Quilla_by_Shining_Seraph.png[/img][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100307050539/yugioh/images/thumb/5/52/SunDragonIntiABPF-EN-UR-1E.png/300px-SunDragonIntiABPF-EN-UR-1E.png[/img][/spoiler] I'll update this later with support and tech choices later, but for now, let's discuss away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Oracle of the Sun makes Arcanite /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 I don't really consider cards part of an archetype if that archetype is not defined by a name, or if it is and the card in question doesn't have that name (JD will never be a Lightsworn). I consider this more like a pre-made engine. Also, it will not be Incan until it gets a Llama monster. They are a fun "archetype", but I still cannot see them working. Apocalypto could be useful in a weird Rank 5 spam... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Inti and Quilla are the worst cards in the deck and this thread is bad. The ace of the deck is Oracle and he's 2-3 per deck. Need to rebuild them now that bulb died... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted March 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1332104243' post='5877018'] Inti and Quilla are the worst cards in the deck and this thread is bad. The ace of the deck is Oracle and he's 2-3 per deck. Need to rebuild them now that bulb died... [/quote] They can make Volca now thanks to Purplythorny Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Um, if they are Solemn'd they aren't sent from the field, so I don't know what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Self-Destruct Button' timestamp='1332104386' post='5877023'] They can make Volca now thanks to Purplythorny Dragon [/quote] [img]http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/you_there__flip_that_table__by_werewolfmali-d46dm89.gif[/img] Purplythorny is not that great of card, granted it's underrated, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 They could make Volca before thanks to QuickDraw and level 5 syncs ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted March 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - ä¿¡ä»°' timestamp='1332104423' post='5877027'] Um, if they are Solemn'd they aren't sent from the field, so I don't know what you are talking about. [/quote] If a Solemn hits Supay, Oracle, or Apocatequil and they are sent to Graveyard, their effects still go off because they were destroyed by the card effect of Solemn Judgment/Warning. Do remember that their effects activate when in the Graveyard. Think about what Black Brutdrago can do, as its effect that activates in the Graveyard has similar wording and that effect cannot be stopped by Solemns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Self-Destruct Button' timestamp='1332104682' post='5877038'] They were sent to Graveyard because they were destroyed. Their effects activate while in Graveyard. Think about what Black Brutdrago can do. [/quote] You're an idiot. Think about what a good player can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 wait. Agent of Venus -> 2 Shine Balls -> Insect Imitation -> Ascator -> Inti..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='evilkokonoe' timestamp='1332105029' post='5877048'] wait. Agent of Venus -> 2 Shine Balls -> Insect Imitation -> Ascator -> Inti..? [/quote] Or Scrap Drag, Stardust, Crimson Blader, Thought Ruler, or Colossal and actually make it worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted March 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='evilkokonoe' timestamp='1332105029' post='5877048'] wait. Agent of Venus -> 2 Shine Balls -> Insect Imitation -> Ascator -> Inti..? [/quote] That does work, as long as a Shine Ball is Tributed. Good one. [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1332105194' post='5877057'] Or Scrap Drag, Stardust, Crimson Blader, Thought Ruler, or Colossal and actually make it worth it. [/quote] Also, what happened to you to hate Inti/Quilla so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='evilchris' timestamp='1332104840' post='5877045'] You're an idiot. Think about what a good player can do. [/quote] Read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Self-Destruct Button' timestamp='1332105224' post='5877059'] That does work, as long as a Shine Ball is Tributed. Good one. Also, what happened to you to hate Inti/Quilla so much? [/quote] I don't hate them. I just used my head and saw just how situational the loop or w/e is and how, without the loop going off, they're terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - ä¿¡ä»°' timestamp='1332105439' post='5877067'] Read? [/quote] I read it. All that I thought was "Casual deck, or only an idiot would think they're remotely competitive." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 [quote name='Self-Destruct Button' timestamp='1332104682' post='5877038'] If a Solemn hits Supay, Oracle, or Apocatequil and they are sent to Graveyard, their effects still go off because they were destroyed by the card effect of Solemn Judgment/Warning. Do remember that their effects activate when in the Graveyard. Think about what Black Brutdrago can do, as its effect that activates in the Graveyard has similar wording and that effect cannot be stopped by Solemns. [/quote] Supay wasn't sent from the field, and Oracle/Apocatequil wasn't face-up on the field though Brutdrago doesn't specify that it has to be destroyed on the field. It's different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 The problem with the archetype, is its lack of decent support. It mostly consists of spamming Oracle, and then using it as fodder for the two Dragons. When, in that scenario, something like Instant Fusion is usually better :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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