Agro Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090503072040/yugioh/images/thumb/0/02/MirrorofOathsRGBT-EN-C-1E.png/300px-MirrorofOathsRGBT-EN-C-1E.png[/img] *sides it against Rabbit; Kills Sangan* My friend actually wants to side it as a response to lower tier decks like Sams and because they're still totally prevalent, GBs. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332602058' post='5886292'] *sides it against Rabbit; Kills Sangan*[/quote] Bottomless can actually do that be- owait, Leviair. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1332603664' post='5886331'] Bottomless can actually do that be- owait, Leviair. Ugh. [/quote]I'd still rather Use BTH because it can stop gua and other shtick like Leviar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='⌈Remote⌋' timestamp='1332603807' post='5886334'] I'd still rather Use BTH because it can stop gua and other shtick like Leviar [/quote]TCG has priority. Bottomless doesn't stop Leviair from doing what it does. What it DOES stop is Rabbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332604048' post='5886341'] TCG has priority. Bottomless doesn't stop Leviair from doing what it does. What it DOES stop is Rabbit.[/quote] Thing about Rabbit decks, is they make use of both the Graveyard [i]AND[/i] Banished Zone :/ Though cards like this are rather humorous, considering this is a +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1332604446' post='5886355'] Thing about Rabbit decks, is they make use of both the Graveyard [i]AND[/i] Banished Zone :/ Though cards like this are rather humorous, considering this is a +1 [/quote]I'd rather have 2 Level 4 Dinosaurs banished than on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332604048' post='5886341'] TCG has priority. [/quote]OCG is better. We seriously should lose exclusives, secrets(Getting OCG cards as Commons - Ultras is fine.), and Freacking Priority. Now if bottomless negated anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='⌈Remote⌋' timestamp='1332604550' post='5886358'] OCG is better. We seriously should lose exclusives, secrets(Getting OCG cards as Commons - Ultras is fine.), and Freacking Priority. Now if bottomless negated anyway... [/quote]I disagree. We should still have exclusives, it makes it fair an interesting. Rarity bumps are a given because they include OCG cards in sets. Priority is the only thing I agree about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332604829' post='5886364'] We should still have exclusives, it makes it fair an interesting. [/quote][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Wind-Up_Shark"]I'd[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Wind-Up_Zenmaines"]Kinda[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Evolzar_Dolkka"]Like[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Wind-Up_Rabbit"]To[/url] [size=4][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Tour_Guide_From_the_Underworld"]DISAGREE WITH YOU.[/url] [/size][url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Maxx_%22C%22"]Many[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/XX-Saber_Darksoul"]of them[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Infernity_Barrier"]Have[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/XX-Saber_Emmersblade"]Either[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Super-Nimble_Mega_Hamster"]Made a[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gateway_of_the_Six"]Tier 2-[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Totem_Dragon"]Deck Into[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gladiator_Beast_Retiari"]Tier 1,[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Overdrive_Teleporter"]or Made a[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Charge_of_the_Light_Brigade"]Tier 1[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Ehren,_Lightsworn_Monk"]Deck[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Lonefire_Blossom"]Even[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Prime_Material_Dragon"]Better.[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Allure_of_Darkness"]I realize[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Grandmaster_of_the_Six_Samurai"]Some of[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Il_Blud"]These are not[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Grepher"]The best,[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand_of_the_Six_Samurai"]But do[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Treacherous_Trap_Hole"]You get[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Reborn_Tengu"]My point?[/url] Also, rarity bumps are fine, but [url="http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100721073743/yugioh/images/thumb/b/be/DarkArmedDragonPTDN-EN-ScR-UE.jpg/395px-DarkArmedDragonPTDN-EN-ScR-UE.jpg"]secrets are stupid.[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='⌈Remote⌋' timestamp='1332606358' post='5886397'] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Wind-Up_Shark"]I'd[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Wind-Up_Zenmaines"]Kinda[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Evolzar_Dolkka"]Like[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Wind-Up_Rabbit"]To[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Tour_Guide_From_the_Underworld"]DISAGREE WITH YOU.[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Maxx_%22C%22"]Many[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/XX-Saber_Darksoul"]of them[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Infernity_Barrier"]Have[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/XX-Saber_Emmersblade"]Either[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Super-Nimble_Mega_Hamster"]Made a[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gateway_of_the_Six"]Tier 2-[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Totem_Dragon"]Deck Into[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gladiator_Beast_Retiari"]Tier 1,[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Overdrive_Teleporter"]Made a[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Charge_of_the_Light_Brigade"]Tier 1[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Ehren,_Lightsworn_Monk"]Deck[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Lonefire_Blossom"]Even[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Prime_Material_Dragon"]Better.[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Allure_of_Darkness"]I realize[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Grandmaster_of_the_Six_Samurai"]Some of[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Il_Blud"]These are not[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Grepher"]The best,[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand_of_the_Six_Samurai"]But do[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Treacherous_Trap_Hole"]You get[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Reborn_Tengu"]My point?[/url] Also, rarity bumps are fine, but [url="http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100721073743/yugioh/images/thumb/b/be/DarkArmedDragonPTDN-EN-ScR-UE.jpg/395px-DarkArmedDragonPTDN-EN-ScR-UE.jpg"]secrets are stupid.[/url] [/quote]Just because we have broken cards doesn't mean a thing. OCG made Inzektors and the Wind-Up Loop in the first place. Therefore I think that the OCG shouldn't be allowed to make cards at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 That is true, but look at point #2.[quote name='⌈Remote⌋' timestamp='1332606358' post='5886397'] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Overdrive_Teleporter"]Made a[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Charge_of_the_Light_Brigade"]Tier 1[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Ehren,_Lightsworn_Monk"]Deck[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Lonefire_Blossom"]Even[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Prime_Material_Dragon"]Better.[/url] [/quote] ((Though inzectors didn't get as much as other stuff, I'll say)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='⌈Remote⌋' timestamp='1332606358' post='5886397'] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/XX-Saber_Darksoul"]of them[/url] [/quote] As the resident X-Saber Fangirl, I'm here to tell you Darksoul isn't a problem, it was the BS TCG Ruling that made it godly. You can't blame the card itself for the stupid rulings that were given for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Um... why are half of those cards even in there as examples? Honestly, just because TCG has good cards being made as exclusives doesn't mean that they shouldn't be done. TCG makes cards to support what comes in the pack. You can't blame them just because they aren't making support for Genex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Kanade Otonashi' timestamp='1332606904' post='5886422'] As the resident X-Saber Fangirl, I'm here to tell you Darksoul isn't a problem, it was the BS TCG Ruling that made it godly. You can't blame the card itself for the stupid rulings that were given for it. [/quote]It made the deck better with Emmersblade. That was my point. (Though I should probably swap TTH with something. Hm. It is still a cool card though...) [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332607003' post='5886426'] TCG makes cards to support what comes in the pack. You can't blame them just because they aren't making support for Genex. [/quote]Tour Guide Gateway Retari Lonefire Hand ... er... Quite a few came afterwords. Also, I don't even care if genex didn't get any exclusives. What could they have made for them, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='⌈Remote⌋' timestamp='1332607020' post='5886428'] It made the deck better with Emmersblade. That was my point. [/quote] It made the deck better, but it wasn't because of the fact it was badly designed or anything. It was because of a bad ruling. It doesn't really hold up with the rest of the cards you mentioned. It only made the deck as good as it was because of that bad ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Even without it, it still would have made the deck somewhat better than it already was.[quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332607003' post='5886426'] Um... why are half of those cards even in there as examples? [/quote][quote name='⌈Remote⌋' timestamp='1332606358' post='5886397'] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Allure_of_Darkness"]I realize[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Grandmaster_of_the_Six_Samurai"]Some of[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Il_Blud"]These are not[/url] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Grepher"]The best[/url] [/quote]Oops forgot this part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='⌈Remote⌋' timestamp='1332607360' post='5886440'] Even without it, it still would have made the deck somewhat better than it already was. Oops forgot this part [/quote]Oh no. TCG makes cards that get limited. They should stop making cards. /monotone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 I'm afraid I can't understand what you mean by that. Like, It has no logical...meaning to me. Explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Guys, we're way off-topic. Topic Card: (X) Slows down Inzektor (X) Slows down Rabbit (X) Slows down Windup ( ) Is fast and consistent enough to actually see play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='RyanAtlus' timestamp='1332608441' post='5886486'] Guys, we're way off-topic. Topic Card: (X) Slows down Inzektor (X) Slows down Rabbit (X) Slows down Windup ( ) Is fast and consistent enough to actually see play ( ) Isn't outclassed by a lot of other side-deck options that could be useful against rogue decks as well [/quote] Mhm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101118042505/yugioh/images/thumb/7/70/DarkTrapHoleSTBL-EN-C-1E.jpg/300px-DarkTrapHoleSTBL-EN-C-1E.jpg[/img] Except it was more effective against Cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='-Berserker-' timestamp='1332623332' post='5886869'] [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101118042505/yugioh/images/thumb/7/70/DarkTrapHoleSTBL-EN-C-1E.jpg/300px-DarkTrapHoleSTBL-EN-C-1E.jpg[/img] Except it was more effective against Cat. [/quote]Bottomless does it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Bottomless. Chain Dis. Not sure why I'd run this despite being a +1 minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1332625441' post='5886939'] Bottomless. Chain Dis. Not sure why I'd run this despite being a +1 minimum. [/quote]The thought process is: 1. Wind-Up Zenmaighty 2. TGU 3. Rescue Rabbit 4. Inzektor Dragonfly 5. Ascenticism of the Six Samurai 6. Glads That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1332625550' post='5886942'] The thought process is: 1. Wind-Up Zenmaighty 2. TGU 3. Rescue Rabbit 4. Inzektor Dragonfly 5. Ascenticism of the Six Samurai 6. Glads That's it. [/quote] I know full well WHY, I just don't think it's practical. 1. Bottomless/Chain Dis/Fiendish 2. Chain Dis/Fiendish 3. Bottomless 4. Chain Dis before she goes off so that it's not a luck shot when she blows this up/Fiendish 5. owow 1 spot 6. owow 2 spots but it's damn GBs Only 1 valid usage, and I'm sure there's better, even then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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