This Account is Unplayable Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Tsukasa Hiiragi' timestamp='1332883063' post='5891347'] Topic creator asked a question. You said "because". That's like me asking why 2+3x4=14 and not 20, and then the person I asked said "because that's how it works" [/quote] I have stated before that my preferred method in TCG is making the poster first think, then if they need aid to gradually apply it. That's how I learned and I'm now considered one of the best in TCG, at least when it comes to theory. I doubt that that's entirely a fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1332883201' post='5891353'] I have stated before that my preferred method in TCG is making the poster first think, then if they need aid to gradually apply it. That's how I learned and I'm now considered one of the best in TCG, at least when it comes to theory. I doubt that that's entirely a fluke. [/quote] Chris, you're missing the most important thing about your logic. Is that your line of thinking is beyond the other people's. They don't have the same ability as us to envision decks and combos and how they're good or bad. They need a deeper explanation, preferably without insults/swear/poor words, for improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1332883201' post='5891353'] I have stated before that my preferred method in TCG is making the poster first think, then if they need aid to gradually apply it. That's how I learned and I'm now considered one of the best in TCG, at least when it comes to theory. I doubt that that's entirely a fluke. [/quote] Ok, let's look at your fist post. [quote] Because Assailant is a card. [/quote] Ok, you're pointing out a card that outclasses this one. Yes that's helpful and pulling in the right direction, so this is fine, albeit vague. Now for you second post. [quote] Please tell me you can understand basic english. [/quote] WHOA! So we go from helping the person to inderectly insulting them? This helps in no way and should have never been posted in the first place. This is where I will stop because this is the point where you make yourself seem like an a** who just wants to put people down, whether that is what you intended or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='CDDRodrigo' timestamp='1332883466' post='5891370'] Chris, you're missing the most important thing about your logic. Is that your line of thinking is beyond the other people's. They don't have the same ability as us to envision decks and combos and how they're good or bad. They need a deeper explanation, preferably without insults/swear/poor words, for improvement. [/quote] Is it still wrong to at least try to get them to figure it out the first time? Simply pointing out what may be obvious may make the pieces of the puzzle for them fit together, and they understand. Thinking is a huge part of theory-oh. Theory-oh is a huge part of what makes players good. Trying to help them gain that will help them. Simply telling them everything will improve their knowledge, but not their ability.[quote name='Tsukasa Hiiragi' timestamp='1332883645' post='5891377'] Ok, let's look at your fist post. Ok, you're pointing out a card that outclasses this one. Yes that's helpful and pulling in the right direction, so this is fine, albeit vague. Now for you second post. WHOA! So we go from helping the person to inderectly insulting them? This helps in no way and should have never been posted in the first place. This is where I will stop because this is the point where you make yourself seem like an a** who just wants to put people down, whether that is what you intended or not. [/quote] Just to clarify, I said that because I just assumed he didn't even bother checking Assailant, or thinking at all and if you had actually continued with my posts you would have realised I did help him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Yes, but that second post is distracting enough to make a person who you're trying to help think your an arse and isn't even trying to help. It was very unneeded and did not help anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Tsukasa Hiiragi' timestamp='1332883869' post='5891388'] Yes, but that second post is distracting enough to make a person who you're trying to help think your an arse and isn't even trying to help. It was very unneeded and did not help anybody. [/quote] Well, I am an arse. I'm pretty sure everyone in TCG realises that by now. Regardless, that case was purely a miss-understanding. Either way I won't deny I can be an arse at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1332883957' post='5891393'] Well, I am an arse. I'm pretty sure everyone in TCG realises that by now. Regardless, that case was purely a miss-understanding. Either way I won't deny I can be an arse at times. [/quote] And THAT is why people tell others to not go to the TCG in Intro section. Because we insult others who don't think on our level yet. I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1332883697' post='5891380'] Is it still wrong to at least try to get them to figure it out the first time? Simply pointing out what may be obvious may make the pieces of the puzzle for them fit together, and they understand. Thinking is a huge part of theory-oh. Theory-oh is a huge part of what makes players good. Trying to help them gain that will help them. Simply telling them everything will improve their knowledge, but not their ability. [/quote] They would need to ignite a spark so that they develop this line of thinking. And that spark is not posting "Because X is a card". It's good to make them think on their own, preferably when they figure something out, ask us, and then we tell them (on an explained, detailed, gentle way) if that card/combo is good or bad. Then, we should try to give them an example for them to figure out if it's good or bad. After that we give the answer, always detailed. After a few times they'll gain the logic we have, and improve properly. This is how this section should work IMO. If we make this section an improvement place rather than a bragging place, new members will want to post, everything will be better for the mod team as they wouldn't have so much trouble, and we wouldn't have so many people on C&O that play the game but don't know how it properly works. That's why I'm favorable of having stickied tutorials (a guide, really) about the advanced part of the game. It would bring the insight necessary to put the players on the right track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Wouldn't a tutoring system work better than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1332884254' post='5891411'] Wouldn't a tutoring system work better than that? [/quote] What I have in mind is essentially a tutoring system, and I'd gladly be part of it should it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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