Toffee. Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 [center][img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091111115221/yugioh/images/thumb/5/5b/LightforceSwordRP02-EN-C-UE.jpg/300px-LightforceSwordRP02-EN-C-UE.jpg[/img] [quote][center]Select 1 random card from your opponent's hand and remove it from play face-down. During your opponent's 4th Standby Phase after this card's activation, return that card to their hand.[/center][/quote][/center] This card would be really debilitating for various reasons, if it didn't have that idiotic timer attached to it :/ Regardless, Konami should make more cards that Banish the Opponent's cards Face-Down, if they [i]REALLY[/i] wanted to create some insane anti-Meta shenanigans. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Unless I'm mistaken banish face-down means you can't do anything with it, yes? Either way, in the set I'm working on atm I'm using this a lot. Really, we need more cards that did this since it would remove the 2nd graveyard nature of the RFP zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1334631841' post='5916418'] Unless I'm mistaken banish face-down means you can't do anything with it, yes?[/quote] That's the point. Monsters that are Banished facedown have no level, attribute, ATK, hell, not even a name. So if you Banished the Opponent's Rescue Rabbit Face-Down, they couldn't grab it with Leviair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelds9 Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1334631841' post='5916418'] Unless I'm mistaken banish face-down means you can't do anything with it, yes? Either way, in the set I'm working on atm I'm using this a lot. [b]Really, we need more cards that did this since it would remove the 2nd graveyard nature of the RFP zone.[/b] [/quote] But then we'd get support that would help cards like that, and then it would be exactly like the Banished Pile has become. A less, but still fairly easily targeted zone/concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 It should be better with the game being fast, but it's still sorta eh. Could be funny, though... Except Random is meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 [quote name='shelds9' timestamp='1334632100' post='5916431'] But then we'd get support that would help cards like that[/quote] What if you secretly shuffled your Banished monsters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 I have loved this concept but concerning the use of YVD you can't banish them face-down by this card or the Different Dimension Capsule but Duel Portal can now. I wish they made more cards with the effect of banishing face-down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelds9 Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 This would be a very cool thing to see in an Archetype... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Hey Leviair. SUCK IT. Honestly, it would be great to make this what stuff like Macro was a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1334633269' post='5916468'] Honestly, it would be great to make this what stuff like Macro was a while back.[/quote] Flipping the Zone -Quick-Play Spell- Flip all Face-Up Banished monsters Face-Down. Draw 1. There must be at least 1 Face-Up Banished monster to activate and resolve this effect. ????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelds9 Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1334633730' post='5916488'] Flipping the Zone -Quick-Play Spell- Flip all Face-Up Banished monsters Face-Down. Draw 1. There must be at least 1 Face-Up Banished monster to activate and resolve this effect. ????????????? [/quote] But then Lolnami comes in: Spell Add 1 Face-Down Banished card in your Banished Pile and add it to your hand. Stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 [quote name='shelds9' timestamp='1334633872' post='5916492'] But then Lolnami comes in: Spell Add 1 Face-Down Banished card in your Banished Pile and add it to your hand. Stuff like that. [/quote] AND THEN THE ANIME HAPPENS: Reveralreversalreversal - Bacon Flip -Counter-Trap- Pay 1500 Lifepoints: Negate the activation and effect of a card that would add a Face-Down Banished monster to a player's hand and destroy it. During the End Phase of this turn, discard your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1334634248' post='5916506'] AND THEN THE ANIME HAPPENS: Reveralreversalreversal - Bacon Flip -Counter-Trap- Pay 1500 Lifepoints: Negate the activation and effect of a card that would add a Face-Down Banished monster to a player's hand and destroy it. During the End Phase of this turn, discard your hand. [/quote] Situational is sitational. lol or a monster that can cause banishing face-down any ways. Like when a monster(s) leave the field by a card effect then pay whatever way you want, then have all those monsters become banished face-down instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelds9 Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 It would be cool if you could turn a card in the Grave Face-Down O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 [quote name='shelds9' timestamp='1334634790' post='5916519'] It would be cool if you could turn a card in the Grave Face-Down O_o [/quote] I realize if you can make a banished card become face-down, you could also do one to the Grave... O.o so making a card inaccessable in either grave or Banish Zone... interesting concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1334631989' post='5916427'] That's the point. Monsters that are Banished facedown have no level, attribute, ATK, hell, not even a name. So if you Banished the Opponent's Rescue Rabbit Face-Down, they couldn't grab it with Leviair. [/quote] Yea, thats what I thought. Would cards that returned banished card to the yard also work on them if they are face-down? I'd assume so, just want to double check [quote name='shelds9' timestamp='1334632100' post='5916431'] But then we'd get support that would help cards like that, and then it would be exactly like the Banished Pile has become. A less, but still fairly easily targeted zone/concept. [/quote] Or, you know, we could not get them. We need a way to permently remove a threat from the game and banish simply can't provide that. Plus it opens up design space if it were to get pushed since you can temporally take a card out of the game knowing your opponent can't really get it back until you say so and creates time delays for effects D.D.Capsule. Example along the lines of the first [img]http://i42.tinypic.com/25q6pdv.jpg[/img] For the second Pot of Desire Continuous Spell When you activate this Spell: Put 2 Time Counters on this card; banish the top card of you deck face-down. During your Standby Phase: Remove a Time Counter from this card. When this card has no Time Counters on it: Send this card to the Graveyard; add the card banished face-down by this effect to your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1334644306' post='5916588'] Yea, thats what I thought. Would cards that returned banished card to the yard also work on them if they are face-down? I'd assume so, just want to double check [/quote]As long as the card has no restrictions on what type of card it can return, then you can. Otherwise, you can't because you can't be sure what you're returning. Actually, how do you use Capsule when you have multiple cards banished face-down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1334645245' post='5916593'] As long as the card has no restrictions on what type of card it can return, then you can. Otherwise, you can't because you can't be sure what you're returning. Actually, how do you use Capsule when you have multiple cards banished face-down? [/quote] 2 ways. 1) Put the card under the Capsule. 2) Just track where it would be. One of those is obviously easier then the other, but yea, not that bad imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 This is not Vanguard. No flipping cards in any zone other than the Field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 信仰' timestamp='1334690098' post='5916982'] This is not Vanguard. No flipping cards in any zone other than the Field. [/quote] Konami can if they want to bwahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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