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New extra deck type.... Immortals!!!


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Two Rank 5 Xyz monsters or Five level 2 monsters
Can only be Immortal summoned with the above materials. If Xyz monsters were used as the materials for this monster, the Xyz materials of those monsters become Immortal materials for this card. Once per turn detach one immortal material from this card; destroy one monster from both players extra decks.



Alrighty then, the immortal summon is done by overlaying either Xyz or regular monsters whose total rank/level equals the level of the Immortal monster, the materials are then attached to the monster (much like Xyz summoning but these are a bit stronger). I couldent find another color for the background of the card, so just pretend its a rosy reddish color.... Oh and a note is that the final effect of this example is purely that... an example and is not meant to serve as the basis for all Immortal monsters lol.

Tell me what you think peeps!! = )

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Too soon to give you any real cnc about the new subtype, but in my honest opinion, it's just stupid. Why make a new Extra Deck type when you could have just made it an Xyz that requires 2 Rank 5 Xyz Materials? Seriously, the game does not need more different card types.

But onto the effect of the card itself: Totally not worth to be Summoned at all if all it does it destroy cards in the Extra Deck. :I

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[quote name='TheUnforgiven' timestamp='1335298461' post='5924215']
Hmmm.... seems like you just like pickin on other members to me........ lol.... well if this is your honest opinion than whatever. I really dont care what low lifes like you think.
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So I'm a low life because I do not like your card design? And no, in no way was I picking on you. So stop bitching because you got constructive criticism. You know, that's the whole point of RC in the first place, to post realistic cards and to get CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM. If you can't deal with getting CnC, get the hell out from RC and move to AoC.

[quote name='TheUnforgiven' timestamp='1335298461' post='5924215']
Why dont you just grow up and start acting just a little more mature.
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Why do not you grow up and learn how to receive CnC? Because you cannot live a good life with going on telling people off and calling them "low lives" when they give you CnC.

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[quote name='TheUnforgiven' timestamp='1335300025' post='5924238']
Trolls dont belong here boy.
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Lololol, I wasn't trolling at all. And why did you even think that me calling the IDEA behind immortals stupid is CnC? Because it isn't. I was telling you my [i][b]opinion[/b][/i] about the Immortal idea. Then I transitioned to the effect of the card itself, which I probably could have made into a bit more detailed, but you honestly can't go much more into detail about an effect that destroys cards from the Extra Deck, especially when there's no point in doing so when this card is just a means to show off the new type of Immortals.

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[quote name='TheUnforgiven' timestamp='1335297990' post='5924207']
[img]http://i1168.photobucket.com/albums/r497/REvan342/createcard-4.jpg[/img]

Two Rank 5 Xyz monsters or Five level 2 monsters
Can only be Immortal summoned with the above materials. If Xyz monsters were used as the materials for this monster, the Xyz materials of those monsters become Immortal materials for this card. Once per turn detach one immortal material from this card; destroy one monster from both players extra decks.



Alrighty then, the immortal summon is done by overlaying either Xyz or regular monsters whose total rank/level equals the level of the Immortal monster, the materials are then attached to the monster (much like Xyz summoning but these are a bit stronger). I couldent find another color for the background of the card, so just pretend its a rosy reddish color.... Oh and a note is that the final effect of this example is purely that... an example and is not meant to serve as the basis for all Immortal monsters lol.

Tell me what you think peeps!! = )
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[u][b]CnC:[/b][/u]
1 - So, Immortal Summoning is basically Xyz Synchros? Why this over Chaos Xyzs?
2 - You haven't defined what differentiates an Immortal Material from an Xyz Material.

Okay, why would I use this? It's effect destroys 1 monster in the Extra Deck for both players, monsters which need to be Summoned first before they can be Special Summoned by other means. Furthermore, there are probably, or guaranteed, to be much more better Rank 5 Xyz monsters which you would not want to waste on Summoning this.

It's effect is, essentially, pretty useless in current Meta, I'd consider reviewing it thoroughly.

[u][b]Opinion:[/b][/u]
The name is rather lazy, a simple term which sounds catchy. Immortal means they cannot die, this card doesn't portray such a message to me. It's picture could be better, but isn't too bad. I'm not a fan because it's not thoroughly thought through; I think there are, at least, a million better names to use for the Type than Immortals. Simply put: Wrong Section, imo.

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[quote name='TheUnforgiven' timestamp='1335300025' post='5924238']
Its not the fact that you dont like it kid... its how you presented it..... i except all critisism that is not simply "its stupid"..... you provided no true points to back it up, so its not constructive critisism.

Trolls dont belong here boy.
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[quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1335298255' post='5924210']
Too soon to give you any real cnc about the new subtype, but in my honest opinion, it's just stupid. [b]Why make a new Extra Deck type when you could have just made it an Xyz that requires 2 Rank 5 Xyz Materials? Seriously, the game does not need more different card types.[/b]

But onto the effect of the card itself: Totally not worth to be Summoned at all if all it does it destroy cards in the Extra Deck. :I
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He says why it is stupid and it is a valid criticism. Why introduce a new card type when you can do vertually the same thing with XYZs.

You should not go outside the box unless you can't do it inside of it. Stupid may be a harsh word, but so is pointless and that is an apt word to describe introducing a new card type for no reason other then just caus.

And yes, pulling cards cards from the Extra deck is hardly useful. Also "destory" wouldn't be the correct word anyway since that only applies for cards on the field. It would be better worded as
"Send a card from both your and your opponent's extra deck to the Graveyard"
and I don't even think that is right since I don't often see targeted removal for cards in the [extra] deck.

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I realize its similar to Xyz's...... But also realize that this is a prototype, and with all prototypes it is bound to be a failure to begin with.... The final product will be very differant from Xyz.

An idea i mulled over involves overlaying cards in the graveyard rather than the field, while keeping the Level sum idea, and also these new immortals would have a Rank and Level. Im trashing the idea of it using Xyzs as materials, to put some distance between Xyz and Immortal.

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[quote name='TheUnforgiven' timestamp='1335305500' post='5924322']
I realize its similar to Xyz's...... But also realize that this is a prototype, and with all prototypes it is bound to be a failure to begin with.... The final product will be very differant from Xyz.

An idea i mulled over involves overlaying cards in the graveyard rather than the field, while keeping the Level sum idea, and also these new immortals would have a Rank and Level. Im trashing the idea of it using Xyzs as materials, to put some distance between Xyz and Immortal.
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This is just XYZ overlay mechanic mixed with Synchros. The fact that you can use XYZ (fyi, it fine that you can) isn't what makes them so similar, it is using the overlay mechanic and you need a good reason to use it with something that isn't XYZs. And since I see no reason for XYZs to not be able to count levels to match rank rather then have Rank=Level you should just use XYZ.

If your going to do XYZs adding you should keep with the same XYZ template. As in 3 Level 2 monsters.

Do not use the graveyard. It is literally free advantage and is VERY dangures territory.

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