If Tewart's saying what I think he's saying [Bottomless Trap Hole] is now broke.

[Canadian]

Wow jesse be shittin' bricks.

And lol at people talking about card price drops. Makes me so happy to not spend money on obtaining Dino Rabbit decks.

[El Majishan]

lol....I'm a bit sad....Zenmaity is not a super cool guy that gets prio anymore ....other than that I think Wind-Ups are relatively unharmed....right?

[The ReBeL]

Well my teammate is probably selling his now lol. but other than that i think lots of decks will me more viable and that Konami is just smart when it comes to money.

Barack Obama says Konami money strategy on ruining the metadecks and spreading the wealth seems legit.
Also not all metadecks were hit i know.

Well my teammate is probably selling his now lol. but other than that i think lots of decks will me more viable and that Konami is just smart when it comes to money.

Barack Obama says Konami money strategy on ruining the metadecks and spreading the wealth seems legit.
Also not all metadecks were hit i know.

[El Majishan]

lol....I'm a bit sad....Zenmaity is not a super cool guy that gets prio anymore ....other than that I think Wind-Ups are relatively unharmed....right?

[evilfusion]

[quote name='Le Magician' timestamp='1335399121' post='5925363']
lol....I'm a bit sad....Zenmaity is not a super cool guy that gets prio anymore ....other than that I think Wind-Ups are relatively unharmed....right?
[/quote]

Hunter doesn't have Priority, either. No more Zenmaity -> Hunter -> guaranteed discard.

[El Majishan]

[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1335399469' post='5925367']
Hunter doesn't have Priority, either. No more Zenmaity -> Hunter -> guaranteed discard.
[/quote]

Oh yeah these's that...forgot since ppl usually stop Zenmaity right away...So I guess the loop is "less broken".

Great, hopefully ppl can stop bitching at me cuz I play Wind-Ups.

[Agro]

Inzektors become the new top deck because nothing about them was really affected by this ruling. Plus they can run Rivalry of Warlords, which is just f*cking hilarious.

[Brinolovania]

I just realized that my Machinas suddenly became hugely better because I run stuff like 3 Compulsory.

Oooooo...

[El Majishan]

So what be comes staple now? Chalice, Raigeki Break, Bottomless?

And does Fiendish Chain fall out of favor?

[TheTurtleOnceCalledGod]

Fiendish Chain does not deserve deck space anymore.

[Not-so-Radiant Arin]

[quote name='Le Magician' timestamp='1335401392' post='5925391']
And does Fiendish Chain fall out of favor?
[/quote]

If anything, Fiendish gets a boost.

[EmpoleMew]

[quote name='Le Magician' timestamp='1335401392' post='5925391']
And does Fiendish Chain fall out of favor?
[/quote]

Fiendish falls out of favor after getting two reprints in the coming months. Just as planned?

[El Majishan]

[quote name='EmpoleMew' timestamp='1335401813' post='5925400']
Fiendish falls out of favor after getting two reprints in the coming months. Just as planned?
[/quote]

Seem legit.

[quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1335401805' post='5925398']
If anything, Fiendish gets a boost.
[/quote]

based on the new ruling... veiler does it better since the monster does not have to remain on the field to maintain the negation...if im not mistaken. and chalice has loldamagestep and isn't afraid of mst.

[Miror B]

[quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1335401805' post='5925398']
If anything, Fiendish gets a boost.
[/quote]
Not really because it doesn't negate costs, and by game mechanics the minute the targetted monster either leaves the field or flips face down Fiendish gets destroyed.

[Agro]

Yes, yes, yes. Fiendish is now not worth maining, though it's certainly a great side deck card against Wind-Ups and Inzektors.

[This Account is Unplayable]

Fiendish wasn't worth maining anyway. :s

[Agro]

[quote name='Chris' timestamp='1335424190' post='5925608']
Fiendish wasn't worth maining anyway. :s
[/quote]*looks at the past few YCSs*

I beg to differ.

[evilfusion]

Fiendish Chain's advantage over Veiler is it also prevents attacking, and continues to negate the effect, stopping bigger monsters from still wreaking havoc for a turn or two. As a weakness, it only negates while the monster is faceup (because as a Continuous Trap, it's bonding to that moster).

[-Berserker-]

I think I understand now.
Quick effects like Temtempo still work as usual after a summon, right?

[Synchronized]

I'm curious, how would this work with Gachi Gachi?

For example, I Special Summon Gachi, my opponent activates Raigeki Break. Can I still detach a material to negate Gachi's destruction?

[.Rai]

[quote name='ɢαlαхy' timestamp='1335475916' post='5926036']
I'm curious, how would this work with Gachi Gachi?
For example, I Special Summon Gachi, my opponent activates Raigeki Break. Can I still detach a material to negate Gachi's destruction?
[/quote]

Gachi's effect is Continuous, so it's basically unaffected by the changes which are to do with Ignition priority.

Gachi's effect acts the same.

[evilfusion]

ONLY Ignition Effects have changed. Everything else plays exactly the same.

[The ReBeL]

the above ^

[sbdnate]

Well, I think I will go boss and take out my warnings for trap hole... Regular trap hole... Suck on that inzectors!

Just to be sure, does stratos still search if bottomlessed? Im wondering if it goes into a monarch deal where its effect still goes off since it activates when summoned.

[Miror B]

[quote name='sbdnate' timestamp='1335558550' post='5926866']
Well, I think I will go boss and take out my warnings for trap hole... Regular trap hole... Suck on that inzectors!

Just to be sure, does stratos still search if bottomlessed? Im wondering if it goes into a monarch deal where its effect still goes off since it activates when summoned.
[/quote]
Once again the only thing that's changed is Ignition effects. Effects that activate with a specific timing like Stratos are Trigger effects. They are not affected.