-Berserker- Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 [center][img]http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo285/Envoy_of_Infinity/285733_395092097208371_185664904817759_1229107_1255147057_n.jpg[/img][/center] [center]When you take [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Damage"]damage[/url] from a card your opponent [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control"]controls[/url] while you control no cards: You can [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Summon"]Special Summon[/url] this card from your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand"]hand[/url]. When Special Summoned this way: [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Activate"]Activate[/url] the appropriate [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect"]effect[/url], based on the type of damage. ● [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_Damage"]Battle Damage[/url]: Special Summon 1 "[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Emissary_of_Darkness_Token"]Emissary of Darkness Token[/url]" ([url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Fairy"]Fairy[/url]-[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Type"]Type[/url]/[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/LIGHT"]LIGHT[/url]/[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Level"]Level[/url] 7/[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/ATK"]ATK[/url] ?/[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/DEF"]DEF[/url] ?). Its ATK and DEF are each equal to the amount of Battle Damage you took. ● [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Effect_Damage"]Effect Damage[/url]: Inflict damage to your opponent equal to the amount of damage you took.[/center] [center]It's somewhat unfair, with all the promotes bad plays and stuff, but it also prevents OTKs, and those are supposed to be bad. Anyways, this is one of my favorite cards.[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 What chewed up the card and spat it out again? Unless that's intentional,then it's pretty. OT: Lolbroke,but right now good for game because of OTKs,which should be stabbed with a fork alongside gorz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Aside from the watermark, Gorz looks awesome as a Ghost Rare. [quote name='-Berserker-' timestamp='1338496736' post='5949954'] It's somewhat unfair, with all the promotes bad plays and stuff, but it also prevents OTKs, and those are supposed to be bad.[/quote] Pretty much this. Gorz is bad because it rewards terrible plays, but its good because it prevents the Opponent from OTKing you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 That moment when you fear attacking directly with an empty field because of this guy, then you think "nah, I'm being stupid, what are the chances?". But then, Gorz is there..., ¡HE'S ALWAYS THERE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 It's terrible card design, but I think it's good for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 [quote name='Wildflame' timestamp='1338498121' post='5949978'] ¡HE'S ALWAYS THERE! [/quote] Dat exclamation mark before the sentence But, yeah, this guy... He is probably one of the reasons I love Ophion so, so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1338498266' post='5949982'] It's terrible card design, but I think it's good for the game. [/quote] Except not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Ban it. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1338602132' post='5950657'] Ban it. /thread [/quote] Wont be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 The only thing /besidesTrag/andVeiler/andtraps that can stop Hieratics from destroying someone's field. Though, against an open field, I would like to just attack mindlessly, there's also the fact that I may play conservatively if there's Gorz. Here's the balance: Gorz may promote bad play, but on the other hand, it's a safety net for all the OTK oriented decks that would kill everyone if Gorz did not exist. Solution: Make a better Heavy Storm that doesn't enable OTKs and ban both Heavy and this. Did I just insert heavy storm into this thread? I believe I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 While Gorz may be a safety net against OTK-based decks, Gorz itself is still indeed banworthy for reasons already stated. The OTK-based decks shouldn't exist in the first place though but there's not much we can really do about that now is there? Until said OTK decks are killed, Gorz I believe will be here to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 And Gorz is really bad against inzektors too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1338611376' post='5950802'] The only thing /besidesTrag/andVeiler/andtraps that can stop Hieratics from destroying someone's field. Though, against an open field, I would like to just attack mindlessly, there's also the fact that I may play conservatively if there's Gorz. Here's the balance: Gorz may promote bad play, but on the other hand, it's a safety net for all the OTK oriented decks that would kill everyone if Gorz did not exist. Solution: Make a better Heavy Storm that doesn't enable OTKs and ban both Heavy and this. Did I just insert heavy storm into this thread? I believe I did. [/quote] Why are you blaming heavy for the OTKs and not the cards that let you put 8000 damage on the board in the [b][i]ONE[/i][/b] turn your opponent is left open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1338660163' post='5951065'] Why are you blaming heavy for the OTKs and not the cards that let you put 8000 damage on the board in the [b][i]ONE[/i][/b] turn your opponent is left open? [/quote]Because Heavy Storm wipes out all defenses on the field and many decks can swarm to an OTK even if they don't do it often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1338663980' post='5951087'] Because Heavy Storm wipes out all defenses on the field and many decks can swarm to an OTK even if they don't do it often. [/quote] If offensive plays werent so herpaderpa,wiping out defenses wouldnt be as punishable,especially when this defense wipe is good for game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1338660163' post='5951065'] Why are you blaming heavy for the OTKs and not the cards that let you put 8000 damage on the board in the [b][i]ONE[/i][/b] turn your opponent is left open? [/quote] I use Heavy Storm then go for a Vylon Sigma OTK. Are you saying that Vylon Sigma would be the unbalanced card in this situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1338664577' post='5951091'] I use Heavy Storm then go for a Vylon Sigma OTK. Are you saying that Vylon Sigma would be the unbalanced card in this situation? [/quote] Vylons are terrible and uncompetitive,so any OTKs from them arent worth looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1338664850' post='5951092'] Vylons are terrible and uncompetitive,so any OTKs from them arent worth looking at. [/quote] ...So basically, instead of admitting you made a mistake, you're going to disregard anything that makes you wrong? Please refer to your earlier post. You didn't say decks that [i]consistently[/i] put 8k OTKs on the board in 1 turn. Also, Sigma OTK is fairly consistent, but you probably don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1338664850' post='5951092'] Vylons are terrible and uncompetitive,so any OTKs from them arent worth looking at. [/quote] "I said something wrong so I'm going to justify it by saying anything that would prove it wrong doesn't count" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1338667398' post='5951111'] "I said something wrong so I'm going to justify it by saying anything that would prove it wrong doesn't count" [/quote] Okay fine,i admit it,heavy is the more broken part of the combo but the part that i would keep is heavy to stop backrow spam formats. Happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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