Organized Chaos Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Discuss Lord Satan and his influence on the world. Not just sin and Hell etc, more about how every evil action in history is linked with him and the stereotype of Satanists (sacrifice of lambs, [s]really nice[/s] blood red robes, unholy chanting, etc) And while I'm on the subject : Did you hear about the dyslexic Satan worshipper who sold his soul to Santa ? (No offense to dyslexics or anything.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 You forgot to add the "If you're a christian" part. I just think it's all phoneybologna, tbh. Just be a generally nice person and you should be fine from "hell". At least, that's my view on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamUnitedNerds Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Request a lock man. This can only go downhill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Honestly, as much as I dislike the Mormon religion I must say their story on the origin of Satan/Lucifer is really creative and very interesting. A top archangel who falls from grace really catches my imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrise Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 [quote name='James Bond - 007' timestamp='1338699446' post='5951364'] Honestly, as much as I dislike the Mormon religion I must say their story on the origin of Satan/Lucifer is really creative and very interesting. A top archangel who falls from grace really catches my imagination. [/quote] Why the Mormon religion specifically? There really isn't anything wrong with it, from my point of view, as for as Christian faith goes. OT: A religion doesn't define a person's morality or actions as far as it seems. Just what they worship. Two people: An outstanding citizen who obeys the law, so on, so forth. Donates to charities, saves animals from terrible places, I can write a book. He's a Satanist. He's going to Hell for worshipping Satan. A morally corrupt citizen who has no regard for the law, breaks it into pieces, tosses the pieces into a pit of fire. Commits sins, etc. He's a Christian. I'm not sure where's he's going. Usually Hell for the sins and such, but a follower of Jesus. Heaven? I can't say I understand this religion in particular. As absurd as it sounds, it's true. The influence of Satan is as great as any other religious figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 I've sworn to myself that I would never believe in God, or in gods. Thus I don't believe in Devils either. Why? Because, like Death Penguin mentioned, any religion says that if you don't believe it, you'll go to hell. Reason's obvious - its starters want more believers, so they need to urge people in. They use hell and its Devils as blackmail. I think that itself is sorta fine, given the believers have their reasons to do so, but still I simply can't take in the idea that no matter how benevolent someone is, he'll go to hell just because he just worshiped another God. I try to see the world in the widest view possible, and I firmly believe that religion will narrow it. I'm not saying religions are evil - I understand their good parts, but I fear of being brainwashed into the idea that someone must be evil just because of something he did that isn't any different from your own actions. On the topic of Christian details of the Devils: I honestly LOVE it. It's got way more drama than most other religions, and you can sorta even research through it as though you're reading a novel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organized Chaos Posted June 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 [quote name='Death Penguin' timestamp='1338707719' post='5951427'] Why the Mormon religion specifically? There really isn't anything wrong with it, from my point of view, as for as Christian faith goes. OT: A religion doesn't define a person's morality or actions as far as it seems. Just what they worship. Two people: An outstanding citizen who obeys the law, so on, so forth. Donates to charities, saves animals from terrible places, I can write a book. He's a Satanist. He's going to Hell for worshipping Satan. A morally corrupt citizen who has no regard for the law, breaks it into pieces, tosses the pieces into a pit of fire. Commits sins, etc. He's a Christian. I'm not sure where's he's going. Usually Hell for the sins and such, but a follower of Jesus. Heaven? I can't say I understand this religion in particular. As absurd as it sounds, it's true. The influence of Satan is as great as any other religious figure. [/quote] I was simply saying that there is a common stereotype as with all religions. I do agree, somehow even if you're good at heart, the Christian faith sends you to Hell for worshipping Satan. Generally, they're just fearmongering into alienating and rejecting free thought. [quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1338717452' post='5951459'] I've sworn to myself that I would never believe in God, or in gods. Thus I don't believe in Devils either. Why? Because, like Death Penguin mentioned, any religion says that if you don't believe it, you'll go to hell. Reason's obvious - its starters want more believers, so they need to urge people in. They use hell and its Devils as blackmail. I think that itself is sorta fine, given the believers have their reasons to do so, but still I simply can't take in the idea that no matter how benevolent someone is, he'll go to hell just because he just worshiped another God. I try to see the world in the widest view possible, and I firmly believe that religion will narrow it. I'm not saying religions are evil - I understand their good parts, but I fear of being brainwashed into the idea that someone must be evil just because of something he did that isn't any different from your own actions. On the topic of Christian details of the Devils: I honestly LOVE it. It's got way more drama than most other religions, and you can sorta even research through it as though you're reading a novel. [/quote] I agree, religion (mostly Christianity but also Mormons and others as already mentioned) only came up with Hell anjd Heaven as incentives to stay on thier path, to try and scare (or tempt you in the case of Heaven) you in theirt direction, how they want you to think. Essentially, from my point of view, religion is a lot like mind control. People cfan tell me otherwise but I don't believe them. Religion is also done because of the human need to be accepted in life and will allow themselves to be controlled, if you worship the same God as the people around you, there is a high chance that you will be accepted into their circle and achieve "wholeness". That is just my view anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Oh yay, Satan. I love talking about that guy. Let's talk about the origins. Satan is a jewish term coined that means [i]"opposer". [/i]It is a title, rather than a name, which belongs to one of the greatest angels of God's circle- the Archangel the Fifth Circle, Samael. Despite being a member of the heavenly host, all of Samael's duties involved performing grim tasks in the name of God, and his coming heralded either immediate destruction or the coming of temptation- but despite this, he is a loyal servant of the Lord. Literature indicates that God briefly gave Moses command of Samael, and it is he who is responsible for the Ten Plagues of Egypt (especially the tenth, wherein Samael himself came to earth to reap the lives of the firstborn Egyptians)- this is significant, considering Moses' first miracle was changing his staff into a snake. Samael is often depicted as a serpent, and occasionally he is depicted as the snake that tempted Eve in the Garden of Eden. This imagery was later adopted by early Christians for their own depictions of a radically different Satan. As for where the Lucifer comes in on that, that is the result of a number of stories meshing in strange ways. Later jewish writings would include that Samael eventually tired of his position, and connived to usurp God from the throne of heaven; naturally, he failed, and was cast down to the Abyss where he would hover about for all eternity, serving as the gatekeeper to oblivion. A similar story developed in Islam- there, the dijinni were imperfect beings made with free will but no souls, created after the angels but before humanity. The djinni's leader, Iblis, refused to bow down before Adam and Eve at God's command and was thus banished from Paradise; he would then live on as a tempter of men, who strove to undermine the authority of humanity at all times. It is worth noting that Djinni were commonly depicted with red skin, horns and magical powers over fire- this is likely where the 'modern' image of a stereotypical Satan comes from. Thirdly is the early Christian parable of a great king, the 'Morning Star of his nation', falling to his own hubris when he declared himself to be the equal of God. This relatively little-known parable was confused with a similar term used to describe the greatest of angels ([i]Also [/i]known as the Morning Star'), Michael. To the illiterate crowds of the Middle ages and apathetic pastors, this eventually warped into the story of a different angel entirely- Lucifer (which is latin for Light-Bringiner/Morning Star), the greatest angel of God, who fell to sin and became the omnipresent Satan. Along the way, he picked up traits of his satanic predecessors- the snakes and tempations of Samael, the fire and horns of Iblis. The reason for his fall was never entirely clear, though generally Samael or Iblis would fill in the blanks- Lucifer either attempted to usurp God's throne, or refused to bow down to humanity. Or something. Sometimes they didn't give him a reason. Hey, it was the dark ages, cut him some slack. The interesting bit is that, with more modern religions like Gnosticism and Mormanism springing off of Jewish Kabblah and Middle Age Christian beginnings, all of these legends have woven together into a semi-cohesive pattern that pretty much everyone seems to agree with [i]to an extent[/i], at least. The Lucifer was the greatest of all angels (his true name being Azrael), and was employed by God to tempt humanity. After doing such and seeing the weakness of humans (who fell to his tricks time and time again), Azrael lost faith in God's perfection, and as such deduced that if God were imperfect, and he were as close to perfect as an angel could achieve, then it stood to reason that he and God were of equal footing. God was unwilling to allow an angel to think themselves as great as he, and empowered the most powerful of the Archangels (Michael), to cast Lucifer out of heaven- afterwards, Michael became the new Lucifer, greatest of the Angels. Lucifer fell to the Pit, and in his rage, he became a demon- a being like an angel, but whose' mission is solely to oppose God rather than be used as an instrument of His will. He transformed the Pit (which was a featureless chasm- presumably, identical to Heaven except that it happens to be very far away from God) into a hellish plane of fire and torment, and from then on has existed solely to strike at God through his imperfect creations. Of course, my favourite rendition of the character in media is Lucifer of SMT fame. Particularly his Nocturne/MT2 incarnations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I thought Satan was called Satanael in the Heavens, and Samael was someone different. Well, I suppose there are many possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydra of Ages Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Satanael is a fallen angel who appears only in Gnostic literature. Given that his name literally means "The Opposer of God", it's pretty likely that he's just an interpretation of Samael where they assume his title is also his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." I choose to believe in God because I've seen some pretty miraculous things, and if God exists, it would be cheating for me to not acknowledge his antithesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 [sub][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swGBlDn_yiI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swGBlDn_yiI[/url][/sub] [sub]immorataliy is super easy !!! just gotta know they right guy knowing how to contact him will to give up something for it making a deal with a guy who is well known for his lying loopholes conning and unfairness with his deal making[/sub] [sub]and this ?[/sub] [sub][IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/2cen22r.jpg[/IMG][/sub] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Morality is subjective. I view myself as the only person in the world who follows the path of righteousness, everyone else is a bunch of cattle strayed by the devil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I remember reading something 7 years ago in which Lucifer said something to the effect of "better to rule in Hell, then serve in Heaven". I think it was on a Wikipedia article for Paradise Lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrise Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 [quote name='God Crouton!!!' timestamp='1340286588' post='5960388'] I remember reading something 7 years ago in which Lucifer said something to the effect of "better to rule in Hell, then serve in Heaven". I think it was on a Wikipedia article for Paradise Lost. [/quote] Funny enough, there's a song called "Better to Reign in Hell" by Cradle of Filth. But I should also point out that the song is from the album Damnation and a Day, which Cradle of Filth states is partly based on Paradise Lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Satan is a remembrance of people's moralities and that they only have one life,[s] #yolo[/s] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 [quote name='Death Penguin' timestamp='1338707719' post='5951427'] Why the Mormon religion specifically? There really isn't anything wrong with it, from my point of view, as for as Christian faith goes. [/quote] Some Mormon Beliefs: Black People are cursed. Native Americans are lost Israelites. Jesus is from Missouri. Magic underwear can protect you from bullets, fire, evil, and the end of the world. Elohim is a human who is also a god. The only way a Black person can get into heaven is by being a slave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 [quote name='James Bond - 007' timestamp='1341127541' post='5964730'] Some Mormon Beliefs: Black People are cursed. Native Americans are lost Israelites. Jesus is from Missouri. Magic underwear can protect you from bullets, fire, evil, and the end of the world. Elohim is a human who is also a god. The only way a Black person can get into heaven is by being a slave. [/quote]FALSE!!!! Jesus is believed to visit the American people after is resurrection, not from Missouri. During the time, Missouri could not have even existed. The book of Mormon is an idea that came from the Bible, they are strict Catholics. Black people can receive priesthood and state nothing of being a slave or cursed. They are able to receive priesthood from 1978 onward, after lifting a banned. Native Americans were not lost Israelite, they are believed to be a tribe of lost Israelite, and descendents of the tribe that migrated to America hundreds of years ago. They do not look at it as Magic Underwear, it is called Temple Garment. Show respect for religion, "magic underwear" is derogatory and misleading. It is worn by people after an endowment ceremony. It is a symbolic reminder for sacred covenants made in temple ceremonies and viewed as a literal source of protection for the force of evil, or evil. Elohim is not considered to be human, he is looked at as the God, believed to be the Christian God. Yay for being corrected!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrise Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 [quote name='James Bond - 007' timestamp='1341127541' post='5964730'] Some Mormon Beliefs: Black People are cursed. Native Americans are lost Israelites. Jesus is from Missouri. Magic underwear can protect you from bullets, fire, evil, and the end of the world. Elohim is a human who is also a god. The only way a Black person can get into heaven is by being a slave. [/quote] Dude. I don't care if you take this to heart or not, but damn. You, are most f*cking retarded person I have ever talked to, that criticized the Mormons based on false information. Never have I seen such.... Screw it. I don't feel like going on a b*tch rant because of you. I'm not a Mormon (not even a Christian), but I live with them, and I can go across the hallway if I ever need to ask a question about them (which is never, till now). I asked one of them if the information you provided is right or wrong. He says that it is clearly wrong (and that Daemon is right). So I would [i]love[/i] to know, who told you what you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='Daemon' timestamp='1341140384' post='5964765'] Jesus is believed to visit the American people after is resurrection, not from Missouri. During the time, Missouri could not have even existed. The book of Mormon is an idea that came from the Bible, they are strict Catholics. Black people can receive priesthood and state nothing of being a slave or cursed. They are able to receive priesthood from 1978 onward, after lifting a banned. Native Americans were not lost Israelite, they are believed to be a tribe of lost Israelite, and descendents of the tribe that migrated to America hundreds of years ago. They do not look at it as Magic Underwear, it is called Temple Garment. Show respect for religion, "magic underwear" is derogatory and misleading. It is worn by people after an endowment ceremony. It is a symbolic reminder for sacred covenants made in temple ceremonies and viewed as a literal source of protection for the force of evil, or evil. Elohim is not considered to be human, he is looked at as the God, believed to be the Christian God. [/quote] The book of mormon was made by Joseph Smith Jr. who convinced his followers it contained older manuscripts of prophetical importance. Evidence shown through the Critical Text Edition by Bringham Young University show small evidence to prove that Smith may have fabricated the entire thing. Native Americans are Native Americans, not a lost tribe of Israelites. Evidence is shown that they came here through the Beringia land bridge. A true believer getting shot isn't evil? Or is not a cause of evil? And it is MAGIC UNDERWEAR! People take this cult seriously while they beptize non-believers so the dead can't argue their religion so of course their followers grow. They baptized Hitler. It is not misleading, it is magic *Or spiritual* underwear *Or garment worn around the lower waist area*. Honestly if you read the book of mormon you would know that after the battle with Lucifer was finished, God punished those who stayed neutral in the fight by giving them black skin and sending them to earth as slaves. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9UzbucqHCc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9UzbucqHCc[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcTBhQW175M"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcTBhQW175M[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='James Bond - 007' timestamp='1341192345' post='5965096'] The book of mormon was made by Joseph Smith Jr. who convinced his followers it contained older manuscripts of prophetical importance. Evidence shown through the Critical Text Edition by Bringham Young University show small evidence to prove that Smith may have fabricated the entire thing. Native Americans are Native Americans, not a lost tribe of Israelites. Evidence is shown that they came here through the Beringia land bridge. A true believer getting shot isn't evil? Or is not a cause of evil? And it is MAGIC UNDERWEAR! People take this cult seriously while they beptize non-believers so the dead can't argue their religion so of course their followers grow. They baptized Hitler. It is not misleading, it is magic *Or spiritual* underwear *Or garment worn around the lower waist area*. Honestly if you read the book of mormon you would know that after the battle with Lucifer was finished, God punished those who stayed neutral in the fight by giving them black skin and sending them to earth as slaves. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9UzbucqHCc[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcTBhQW175M[/media] [/quote]Hey look, stupidity from Hitchen too. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705394190/A-response-to-Christopher-Hitchens-after-his-latest-attack-on-Mormonism.html?pg=all http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/review/?vol=19&num=2&id=653 http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/joannabrooks/5293/does_christopher_hitchens_think_mormons_are_sinistererer_/ http://www.examiner.com/article/a-reply-to-christopher-hitchens-slate-article To be honest, why even bother to care? He is only explaining his ideas? One thing about you is, you're are so closed to the first thing that gives you information and how you can use it against people. Find on the internet other information about what weird beliefs you found, and prove it to me right now. I dare you. I searched and I could give you 5 different links for everything just to prove what Mormonism truly is. You are disgracing a religion because of some other idiot who influenced you too easily. You are too influenced by false ideas, which is funny. I need a good laugh though. This is why you are looked upon as stupid by a lot of people, and you get on people's nerves. You think,"This guy seems to be so smart, I have to believe him." I don't really care how you think, and what you think is right. You need to learn respect for ideas and stuff that are shared among people. Stop being who you are for a minute and actually take time to learn about people's beliefs, not just from one source, but from many to receive an answer that is looked at my many. That is how you get a true answer. Now, respect beliefs and don't hinder them useless. You can hate what the people who believe, but not what they believe. You need to learn more than what you know, grow to be someone who is able to come up with the truth for himself, not let a single entity give the answer to you. Don't be naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrise Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='Daemon' timestamp='1341193960' post='5965107'] Hey look, stupidity from Hitchen too. [url="http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705394190/A-response-to-Christopher-Hitchens-after-his-latest-attack-on-Mormonism.html?pg=all"]http://www.deseretne...ism.html?pg=all[/url] [url="http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/review/?vol=19&num=2&id=653"]http://maxwellinstit...19&num=2&id=653[/url] [url="http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/joannabrooks/5293/does_christopher_hitchens_think_mormons_are_sinistererer_/"]http://www.religiond..._sinistererer_/[/url] [url="http://www.examiner.com/article/a-reply-to-christopher-hitchens-slate-article"]http://www.examiner....s-slate-article[/url] To be honest, why even bother to care? He is only explaining his ideas? One thing about you is, you're are so closed to the first thing that gives you information and how you can use it against people. Find on the internet other information about what weird beliefs you found, and prove it to me right now. I dare you. I searched and I could give you 5 different links for everything just to prove what Mormonism truly is. You are disgracing a religion because of some other idiot who influenced you too easily. You are too influenced by false ideas, which is funny. I need a good laugh though. This is why you are looked upon as stupid by a lot of people, and you get on people's nerves. You think,"This guy seems to be so smart, I have to believe him." I don't really care how you think, and what you think is right. You need to learn respect for ideas and stuff that are shared among people. Stop being who you are for a minute and actually take time to learn about people's beliefs, not just from one source, but from many to receive an answer that is looked at my many. That is how you get a true answer. Now, respect beliefs and don't hinder them useless. You can hate what the people who believe, but not what they believe. You need to learn more than what you know, grow to be someone who is able to come up with the truth for himself, not let a single entity give the answer to you. Don't be naive. [/quote] Another actual source of a Mormon who follows their beliefs to heart (of course, teh BYU link is possibly just as reliable, if not more). That aside, Daemon, can I invite you to dinner sometime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='Death Penguin' timestamp='1341198404' post='5965149'] Another actual source of a Mormon who follows their beliefs to heart (of course, teh BYU link is possibly just as reliable, if not more). That aside, Daemon, can I invite you to dinner sometime? [/quote]Sure you can, that would be really fun. Just so you know, I am not a mormon though. I respect it as a religion, and want others to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='Daemon' timestamp='1341193960' post='5965107'] Hey look, stupidity from Hitchen too. [url="http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705394190/A-response-to-Christopher-Hitchens-after-his-latest-attack-on-Mormonism.html?pg=all"]http://www.deseretne...ism.html?pg=all[/url] [url="http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/review/?vol=19&num=2&id=653"]http://maxwellinstit...19&num=2&id=653[/url] [url="http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/joannabrooks/5293/does_christopher_hitchens_think_mormons_are_sinistererer_/"]http://www.religiond..._sinistererer_/[/url] [url="http://www.examiner.com/article/a-reply-to-christopher-hitchens-slate-article"]http://www.examiner....s-slate-article[/url] To be honest, why even bother to care? He is only explaining his ideas? One thing about you is, you're are so closed to the first thing that gives you information and how you can use it against people. Find on the internet other information about what weird beliefs you found, and prove it to me right now. I dare you. I searched and I could give you 5 different links for everything just to prove what Mormonism truly is. You are disgracing a religion because of some other idiot who influenced you too easily. You are too influenced by false ideas, which is funny. I need a good laugh though. This is why you are looked upon as stupid by a lot of people, and you get on people's nerves. You think,"This guy seems to be so smart, I have to believe him." I don't really care how you think, and what you think is right. You need to learn respect for ideas and stuff that are shared among people. Stop being who you are for a minute and actually take time to learn about people's beliefs, not just from one source, but from many to receive an answer that is looked at my many. That is how you get a true answer. Now, respect beliefs and don't hinder them useless. You can hate what the people who believe, but not what they believe. You need to learn more than what you know, grow to be someone who is able to come up with the truth for himself, not let a single entity give the answer to you. Don't be naive. [/quote] [spoiler=Link arguments][url="http://atheism.about.com/b/2004/09/17/case-against-mormonism.htm"]http://atheism.about.com/b/2004/09/17/case-against-mormonism.htm[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN4M8PvpmW4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN4M8PvpmW4[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TApvveQk1wM"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TApvveQk1wM[/url] [/spoiler] Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins share the sentiments at how predictably foolish this religion is. What the belief is can affect the people who believe it and it is rather foolish to hate on a person who believes when it is the belief that affects what he thinks and how his judgement is performed. Respecting religion means I tolerate its atrocities and foolish hypocrisies which I do not. Although I must say Mormonism makes about as much sense as any other religion does, which remarkably, is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 They both share the idea that Mormonism is a foolish religion. They both have different ideas as to why it is foolish though. Let them think that it is foolish. People join a religion for the ideas that it holds sometimes too, not just the history of the religion. My family is Catholic and they don't give a rat's ass about how Jesus was born, and crap like that. They want to show the ideas it holds, and promote them through their lives. Religion is more than just an idea of history, it is also an idea of how to live your life, a direction that will lead you forward with morality. You the history of Mormonism, you complain some false theories with it too. Well, you are just showing how much you care about how something was brought to be, and not what it is trying to show today. Let history affect something. I say that white is the best and superior race there is because that is what history tells me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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