Toffee. Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 [center][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120519142626/yugioh/images/4/4f/HighMedallionArts-ABYR-JP-OP.jpg[/img] [quote][center]Target 2 "Heraldic Beast" monsters in your Graveyard; Special Summon those targets, then Xyz Summon using exactly those cards as Xyz Material.[/center][/quote][/center] SO, RAI-OH, HOW ABOUT THAT XYZ SUMMON YOU CANT CHAIN TO!? Aside from that, this card seems pretty lulzy, considering its basically Miracle Fusion, but for Xyz monsters. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 So you Xyz Summoning through this card's effect but what I find this funy is that you performing 2 monster revival then an instant Xyz summon. Seeing this card doesn't negate effects of the revived monsters. What happen of there a heradlic beast with a mandatory summon effect? My guess is even mandatory effect would miss implying this goes to Xyz summoning immediately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='~Poker Face~' timestamp='1341187433' post='5965048'] So you Xyz Summoning through this card's effect but what I find this funy is that you performing 2 monster revival then an instant Xyz summon. Seeing this card doesn't negate effects of the revived monsters. What happen of there a heradlic beast with a mandatory summon effect? My guess is even mandatory effect would miss implying this goes to Xyz summoning immediately? [/quote]Cards that don't miss the timing don't miss the timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSektor Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='~Poker Face~' timestamp='1341187433' post='5965048'] So you Xyz Summoning through this card's effect but what I find this funy is that you performing 2 monster revival then an instant Xyz summon. Seeing this card doesn't negate effects of the revived monsters. What happen of there a heradlic beast with a mandatory summon effect? My guess is even mandatory effect would miss implying this goes to Xyz summoning immediately? [/quote] Yes, I think that mandatory effects miss in this case. Aside from that, it's a good support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 There's no missing timing here. They just can't activate as Material. (I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Falcon wont miss the timing regardless, as its a 'When..' effect, with no 'You Can' attached to it. And Abercornway is a Graveyard-based effect. We don't need to dwell on the potential of missing the timing, when it comes to the Materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Kay, thrn gonna stand by my first statement: [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1341191108' post='5965082'] Cards that don't miss the timing don't miss the timing. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSektor Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1341192360' post='5965097'] Falcon wont miss the timing regardless, as its a 'When..' effect, with no 'You Can' attached to it. And Abercornway is a Graveyard-based effect. We don't need to dwell on the potential of missing the timing, when it comes to the Materials. [/quote] But the thing here is that they hit the field and instantly becomes materials, so let's say that they release a "Stratos-like" Heraldic Beast: "[i]When this card is Normal or Special Summoned: Add 1 "Heraldic Beast" monster from your Deck to your hand.[/i]". It would active the effect if you use High Medallion Arts on this or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Speaking of Stratos. They should totally make an EHERO version of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 There's nothing to miss timing. It was still Special Summoned, so it will go off, but in a separate chain after you've already performed the Xyz Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSektor Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 [quote name='Neo Galaxy' timestamp='1341330046' post='5966339'] There's nothing to miss timing. It was still Special Summoned, so it will go off, but in a separate chain after you've already performed the Xyz Summon. [/quote] [img]http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/308/929/87b.jpg[/img] Thanks, now I'm less confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Now just imagine if there are any new Dinosaur-Type Heraldic Beasts in ABYR... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 [quote name='Koloktos' timestamp='1341347078' post='5966542'] Now just imagine if there are any new Dinosaur-Type Heraldic Beasts in ABYR... [/quote] What if they were normal monsters too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1341347368' post='5966544'] What if they were normal monsters too?[/quote] Medallion Arts cant be hit by Veiler, be interrupted by Torrential, lose the Materials via Bottomless, be hit with Fiendish Chain, etc, etc, [i]AND IT DOESN'T EVEN USE UP YOUR NORMAL SUMMON! WOW-WEE!![/i] ... ..... But seriously, as cool as Dinosaur-Vanilla Heraldics would be, it would just be overkill for this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1341353218' post='5966610'] Medallion Arts cant be hit by Veiler, be interrupted by Torrential, lose the Materials via Bottomless, be hit with Fiendish Chain, etc, etc, [i]AND IT DOESN'T EVEN USE UP YOUR NORMAL SUMMON! WOW-WEE!![/i] ... ..... But seriously, as cool as Dinosaur-Vanilla Heraldics would be, it would just be overkill for this card. [/quote] Though my previous point of Dinosaur-Type Heraldics still can stand since we there are only 2 non-Xyz Members in the archtype, while the archtype itself seems geared more for aggro rather than support a should've-been-aborted-idea of a Rescue Cat remake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 Pity how so far the Heraldic Beasts suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1341353218' post='5966610'] Medallion Arts cant be hit by Veiler, be interrupted by Torrential, lose the Materials via Bottomless, be hit with Fiendish Chain, etc, etc, [i]AND IT DOESN'T EVEN USE UP YOUR NORMAL SUMMON! WOW-WEE!![/i] ... ..... But seriously, as cool as Dinosaur-Vanilla Heraldics would be, it would just be overkill for this card. [/quote]You missed a K in Dinosaur-Vanilla Heraldicks. Because that's seriously what it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1341425249' post='5967266'] You missed a K in Dinosaur-Vanilla Heraldicks. Because that's seriously what it would be. [/quote] Preeeety much. Though, you gotta' admit, If they printed a a non-Dinosaur Vanilla Heraldic, it would make for an interesting deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 It would make for a pretty straightforward deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 I'm assuming they won't release Heraldics that aren' level 4, which makes Falcon incredibly asinine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1341425823' post='5967277'] I'm assuming they won't release Heraldics that aren' level 4, which makes Falcon incredibly asinine. [/quote] Not unless they give them an obscure Cyber Dragon, and even then, Cyber Dragon would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1341426005' post='5967281'] Not unless they give them an obscure Cyber Dragon, and even then, Cyber Dragon would be better. [/quote] The card doesn't specify same level, so what would happen if you chose 2 monsters with a different level? The ruling would probably be that you can't choose different level monsters, but the card doesn't say that, and to avoid players pulling bullshit they most likely won't print non-level 4 Heraldics, though that completely defeats the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Or [rainbow]Problem-Solving Card Text[/rainbow] could come save the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 You probably wouldnt be allowed to target monsters of different levels because you cannot legally Xyz Summon with them. In the anime, it was explicitly "same level". As to why you need to Summon them...probably so you dont use this when you have 4 monsters on the Field. Card is cool since you can bring out any Xyz, but until Heraldry Beasts get more monsters in their lineup, it's just meh. But it has a lot of potential depending on what other Heraldry Beasts appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1341509252' post='5967859'] But it has a lot of potential depending on what other Heraldry Beasts appear. [/quote] The cool thing about this card, is it has no level restrictions. So if we get level 8 Heraldics monsters, this can make for an effortless Giant Killer. Hell, this could even become an instant Zenmains if we get a level 3 Heraldic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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