宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 I couldn't find a picture that fits what I had in mind so I had to settle with the closest one. I have an Alternate Artwork for this, and if I at least get 2 comments I'll upload that as well. [spoiler=V.1] [img]http://i45.tinypic.com/2djdxsp.jpg[/img] [/spoiler] [spoiler=V1.1] [img]http://i50.tinypic.com/2hfrot4.jpg[/img] [/spoiler] [spoiler=V1.2] [img]http://i50.tinypic.com/2vd5z05.jpg[/img] [/spoiler] [img]http://i48.tinypic.com/9aqqzd.jpg[/img] (I'm fully aware Solemn's effect is much different but I think it's the closest card that I can compare this with, other than Evolkaiser Laggia) It's like Laggia but more flexible! I think I fail at every level concerning originality, but I think it would at least be a staple for anyone who uses at least 2 level 4 monsters. It dodges Royal Decree and other anti-traps. Card Changes: 7/6/2012: Changed Summoning Requirement. 7/6/2012: Nerfed 7/7/2012: Nerfed again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Forgive me if this goes against the nature of your card, but could you give it a type requirement so it doesn't get abused with Rabbit? Plants, while they do have 2 Level 4 vanillas, seem like an alright idea since those two vanillas are horrendously weak, Psychics are even better (given they have no vanillas whatsoever), Rocks might be alright since they have only one strong target (same as Sea Serpents), and Thunders have a weak and a meh vanilla. It's just that a double-Solemn that walks that can be abused with Rabbit is probably going to single-handedly make a tier 0 or 1 deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Oh yeah, Rabbit. Forgot about that card completely. Back to Yugico! EDIT: Now it won't be abused by Rabbit and is still as good as it was before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Its a better Laggia-Dolkka...what is the question here? How is this not shattered (I feel like broken is too small a word) Its spell speed 3, tier 0 foolishness, the best way to fix would be give it a type restriction, get rid of that spell speed 3 clause, and make it both material instead of one. Hmmm that sounds like...Laggia or Dolkka. Man even with all of that its still better. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 [quote name='Beginning446' timestamp='1341545258' post='5968307'] Its a better Laggia-Dolkka...what is the question here? How is this not shattered (I feel like broken is too small a word) Its spell speed 3, tier 0 foolishness, the best way to fix would be give it a type restriction, get rid of that spell speed 3 clause, and make it both material instead of one. Hmmm that sounds like...Laggia or Dolkka. Man even with all of that its still better. lol [/quote] Well, its basically my trademark of making tier 0/1 cards that could turn the meta around completely, either in a bad way or a good way. And if I nerf it like how you suggested it, it won't have such a great impact on the meta IMO. Well, the only way I know to nerf it and still make it game-breaking is by making it both materials like you said. But I won't do it until another person comments on this. Still, thanks for leaving a comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 [quote name='Dread☆プロイセン' timestamp='1341546112' post='5968334'] Well, its basically my trademark of making tier 0/1 cards that could turn the meta around completely, either in a bad way or a good way. And if I nerf it like how you suggested it, it won't have such a great impact on the meta IMO. Well, the only way I know to nerf it and still make it game-breaking is by making it both materials like you said. But I won't do it until another person comments on this. Still, thanks for leaving a comment. [/quote] Doesn't matter if your "trademark" is to make meta defining cards, the card at hand is still broken as s***. Think about it, it's a generic Laggia + Dollka hybrid minus the Summoning negation, which doesn't matter at all. Doesn't require any dedication to run and is literally, a walking Counter Trap Card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Nerfed. I suck at balancing cards... Guess there's still a lot to learn about card making for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeebYGO Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Wow, this card is way too overpowered. Destroy the card when it uses his effect and make it pay 2k life points then it may come close to being balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharc Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 [quote name='CharlesScene' timestamp='1341591391' post='5968644'] Wow, this card is way too overpowered. Destroy the card when it uses his effect and make it pay 2k life points then it may come close to being balanced. [/quote] Now hold on, sir. I feel that's a bit much. Think about this: It requires two materials that CANNOT be searched by Rabbit, it detaches both Xyz Materials for its effect, and it's not all that powerful statistically. Now, it's about on-par with Laggia and Dolkka, and is not as broken as something like Raigeki or Tribe-Infecting Virus. If you add the fact that you need to pay Solemn Warning's Cost AND destroy the monster, it's just not worth it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeebYGO Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 [quote name='-Dharc-' timestamp='1341592624' post='5968662'] Now hold on, sir. I feel that's a bit much. Think about this: It requires two materials that CANNOT be searched by Rabbit, it detaches both Xyz Materials for its effect, and it's not all that powerful statistically. Now, it's about on-par with Laggia and Dolkka, and is not as broken as something like Raigeki or Tribe-Infecting Virus. If you add the fact that you need to pay Solemn Warning's Cost AND destroy the monster, it's just not worth it anymore. [/quote] Yes, the problem with laggia and dolkka is that these should get banned imo. Then destroy the monster and pay 1k lifepoints, its a huge effect and it ignores stuff like mirror force, magic cylinder and so on so its just way too strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharc Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 What you don't seem to realize is that IT ISN'T STRONG. After you use the effect, you're left with a Normal monster with 2000 ATK/ 1000 DEF. You know how many things run over that? A LOT. Everything from Black Luster Soldier to Utopia Ray. Heck, even if it's in Defense Position, Photon Butterspy kills it [i]and[/i] delivers a swift quick to your Life Points. ...Oh wow. Just noticed "Cannot be chained to." ...There's no balancing that. That's just OP'ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Winged Beast means that this is godly as hell in Blackwings. Staple in nearly every deck. Way too good, remove the last effect or get the card out of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Nerfed again. Please comment on the new effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Bump.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Suibon Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 [center]Make it such that it has to detach Exceed Material each time an effect is activated, something like Doomcaliber Knight -- but to compensate you'll have it detach 1 Exceed Material per effect activation attempt instead.[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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