.Rai Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 [center][img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110930172610/yugioh/images/thumb/0/0a/FiveHeadedDragon-GLD4-EN-GUR-LE.png/300px-FiveHeadedDragon-GLD4-EN-GUR-LE.png[/img][/center] No *ahem* particular reason I want to discuss this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Ban this and Future Fusion can stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 [quote name='Dementuo Black Sun' timestamp='1341866800' post='5972180'] Ban Future Fusion. [/quote] This is the slave of FuFu, the trollish one. We should ban the owner, not the slave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc. Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Torrential Tribute. Still a f***ing beast of a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 [quote name='Dementuo Black Sun' timestamp='1341866800' post='5972180'] Ban this and Future Fusion can stay. [/quote]Suddenly Jinzo becomes a deck and we can't keep this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Did you know this card only sees play when it is being future fusion'd out,making it in the same boat as mass driver or cyber stein? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Did you know that this will never hit the field in the decks that do use it as a FuFu target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWashStation Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Never is a pretty strong word Chris. Against Gravekeeper's for instance, or Final Countdown, or a number of other decks, this card would hit the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 idk why GKs are letting this hit the field seeing as you can just Descendant the FuFu. .-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWashStation Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Why would I descendant the FuFu when there are relevant threats. I can hit FGD later, drop a TT/BTH or MST the FuFu later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1341867976' post='5972212'] Did you know that this will never hit the field in the decks that do use it as a FuFu target? [/quote] It does, but if your opponent has no out to it coming out he'll almost certainly have Bottomless or something. Still rather they Bottomless this than a Lightpulsar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormented Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 [size=4][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Always liked the combo were you combine[color=#000000] with Lord of Dragons or, King Dragun, and you've basically got an invincible beast as long as that card is on the field. Also, combine with Raregold Armor to get like an ultimate tank.[/color] [color=#000000]However[/color] [color=#000000]Extremely hard to get out, considering It's 5 dragons and a Fusion card but I say HARD loosely.[/color] [color=#000000]Probably just a bit TOO powerful...[/color][/font][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Gaiz, FuFu is the problem. Not this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWashStation Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 That much is obvious. This card without FuFu is totally balanced. This card with FuFu is instant set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1341868745' post='5972234'] Gaiz, FuFu is the problem. Not this. [/quote] Obv. I'm sure there's some 2-card OTK that involves this dumping 3 Quillbolt then making 2 Phoenix and a Brio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Five Headed is such a cool boss monster, with its massive 5K ATK points. Shame nobody ever really plays this card seriously >___> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Call of the Haunted~ Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I play Fairy Meteor Crush with it, so that even Labyrinth Wall can't protect my foe's life points. Oh and FuFu should be long gone, yes. But damn, I love Dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronBarton Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 FuFu and Dragon's Mirror.. the most dangerous combo of all. They should really fix the fusion requirements. 5 dragons isn't that hard to get in your hand. What they SHOULD do, is maybe change it to 5 dragons, all different attributes. That'd make it a bit harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Call of the Haunted~ Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 [quote name='CameronBarton' timestamp='1341872306' post='5972330'] FuFu and Dragon's Mirror.. the most dangerous combo of all. They should really fix the fusion requirements. 5 dragons isn't that hard to get in your hand. What they SHOULD do, is maybe change it to 5 dragons, all different attributes. That'd make it a bit harder. [/quote] Alright. Here's the deal. No one thinks about this card and Dragon's Mirror together, as much obvious as it sounds. This card is solely used so that you can use Future Fusion to dump 5 Dragon monsters to your Graveyard. In 99% of the time, you won't summon this card if you're doing it right. The Dragons you sent to the Graveyard should be more than enough to win you the game. Dragon's Mirror doesn't see play, and this only sees play because of Future Fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 [quote name='CameronBarton' timestamp='1341872306' post='5972330'] FuFu and Dragon's Mirror.. the most dangerous combo of all. They should really fix the fusion requirements. 5 dragons isn't that hard to get in your hand. What they SHOULD do, is maybe change it to 5 dragons, all different attributes. That'd make it a bit harder.[/quote] >Implying people play Dragon's Mirror to Fuse monsters in the Hand >Implying something that needs 5 Materials for 5K ATK is "overpowered" >Implying Five Headed needs a nerf >Implying people actually leave the Dragons in the Graveyard they mill with Future Fusion [img]http://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/92452StopIt.jpg[/img] Look, unless you have a bunch of Dragon-Types in your Graveyard that your not using and/or run Return from the Different Dimension, then all of your reasons are rendered useless. Mostly because of the fact Future Fusion just needs to serve as a Painful Choice, while gaining a massive ATK monster is just a bonus of activating said card, because as soon as it is sets your Graveyard you proceed to spam a bunch of Lightpulsars and/or Darkness Metals to make use of all those monsters, and likely swing for game. So unless your deck is actually [i]THAT[/i] dedicated to playing Five Headed Dragon as it's win condition(Not saying anything is wrong with that, its just slow), it will just serve as a Painful Choice for any Dragon-based build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 [quote name='Dementuo Black Sun' timestamp='1341866800' post='5972180'] Ban this and Future Fusion can stay. [/quote] And Gem-Knight Master Dia And Escuridao And Chimeratech Overdragon And you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1341873817' post='5972356'] And Gem-Knight Master Dia And Escuridao And Chimeratech Overdragon And you get the idea. [/quote] Those decks don't consistently top, unlike Chaos Dragons. In Dragons, Fu-Fu is basically gg, and it's only used because FGD exists. If you ban FGD, then Future Fusion can still be used to give Fusion-based decks very balanced boost without completely breaking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 [quote name='Dementuo Black Sun' timestamp='1341873999' post='5972358'] Those decks don't consistently top, unlike Chaos Dragons. In Dragons, Fu-Fu is basically gg, and it's only used because FGD exists. If you ban FGD, then Future Fusion can still be used to give Fusion-based decks very balanced boost without completely breaking them. [/quote] And topping defines everything? No, and it's stupid to act like FHD is the only problem here. If topping mattered, Brio wouldn't deserve to die. FuFu makes way more decks than just Dragons able to 1-card OTK. It's not balanced at all and they don't deserve the boost. It's like saying Fiend Decks deserve even 1 TGU, when that's in no way the case. It exists to OTK. IT's not balanced support, at all. Multi-foolishes are never balanced. I mean, a double foolish made Lavals tier 1 (In addition to the Rekindling they had), and this being limited doesn't change that it's the problem, not FHD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1341874350' post='5972363'] And topping defines everything? No, and it's stupid to act like FHD is the only problem here. If topping mattered, Brio wouldn't deserve to die. FuFu makes way more decks than just Dragons able to 1-card OTK. It's not balanced at all and they don't deserve the boost. It's like saying Fiend Decks deserve even 1 TGU, when that's in no way the case. It exists to OTK. IT's not balanced support, at all. Multi-foolishes are never balanced. I mean, a double foolish made Lavals tier 1 (In addition to the Rekindling they had), and this being limited doesn't change that it's the problem, not FHD. [/quote] You're taking what I'm saying at the literal face-value and not even thinking about what I'm saying otherwise. I never said topping defines everything, I'm saying that the only thing that Fu-Fu is a real threat in is Dragons, and Dragons are a part of today's meta. I'd like you to name one or two decks that can both OTK consistently with Future Fusion, as well as combat today's metagame (Or at least be considered competitive-level decks). Rekindling in Lavals is a completely different situation. In Lavals, Rekindling is, quite literally, a 1-card OTK engine. There isn't a secondary card that makes Rekindling super-broke (Unlike Fu-Fu and FGD). Case in point, Future Fusion is only a problem so long as its targets make it a problem. Now, arguing with you any further would be pointless. It's obvious that you won't change your opinion, and I'm holding firmly to mine as well. I've made my point, it's just up to everyone else to either accept or reject it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1341874350' post='5972363'] And topping defines everything? No, and it's stupid to act like FHD is the only problem here. If topping mattered, Brio wouldn't deserve to die. FuFu makes way more decks than just Dragons able to 1-card OTK. It's not balanced at all and they don't deserve the boost. It's like saying Fiend Decks deserve even 1 TGU, when that's in no way the case. It exists to OTK. IT's not balanced support, at all. Multi-foolishes are never balanced. I mean, a double foolish made Lavals tier 1 (In addition to the Rekindling they had), and this being limited doesn't change that it's the problem, not FHD. [/quote] Proposition: FHD and chimeratech go away(their only use IS to be a part of the future fusion combos that make OTKs since they suck raging earth without it.) Everything really problematic to use even with the consistency loss from running jank like bubbleman or etc for the omni hero dump goes away ad infinitum (hornet,Judgment dragon,BLSEOTB,etc.) Future fusion moves up. The double foolish for lavals would be bleh without rekindling abusing whatever you dump anyway. Edit: Dementuo beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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