X-Metaman Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [center][img]http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3259/number22frankenyz03jpop.jpg[/img][/center] [center]DARK/Zombie/Effect/Xyz 4500 ATK/1000 DEF Rank 8: 2 Level 8 DARK monsters. Cannot be Special Summoned, except by Xyz Summoning it, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. Once per turn, during either player's turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card and send 1 card from your hand to the Graveyard to target 1 face-up card your opponent controls; change this card to Defense Position, and negate the effect of the target until the End Phase of this turn.[/center] [center][color=#333333][background=rgb(225, 235, 242)]Nerfed too much?[/background][/color][/center] [center][color=#333333]Discuss.[/color][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 yea that card got nerfed too much, it's almost unplayable. imo it'd only see play in Geartown.dek i'd like it more if it didn't switch the target to defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 That first line is really redundant. At least it's still a 4500 beater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Ugh, I can image giving specific summon conditions for balance sake, but is the discard for its effect really necessary? Oh well, atleast it has a huge body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Ouch seem the nerf hurt quite abit. Most likely it be use as a beater and use its materialsfor other purpose. And the requirement on the type is wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Final Attack Orders?*brick'd" OT: ... kinda disappointed that they didn't add the gender-specific clause--*cinderblock'd* Really OT: Dear god, why the hell did they go and do that for?! I'd rather summon a third material so as to go NGEPD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='Kingdom Xathers' timestamp='1342083093' post='5975233'] Final Attack Orders?*brick'd" OT: ... kinda disappointed that they didn't add the gender-specific clause--*cinderblock'd* Really OT: Dear god, why the hell did they go and do that for?! I'd rather summon a third material so as to go NGEPD. [/quote] I would love it if it have that effect but that will be another load of works for konami to divide the catagories and debate a hell for some monster that can stand out either gender lol. OT2: Geartown Fran Ken.... *shots* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Double clockwork shikigami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Raptor Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Gimmick Puppe- owait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='Johnny Raptor' timestamp='1342089605' post='5975260'] Gimmick Puppe- owait. [/quote] Actually, I see this as proof that the Gimmick Puppets will get into the OCG soon. They designed this to be their support. Pretty serious on this. Sorta like how Atlanteans foretold Mermails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Nerfed, but who cares, it still wins games pretty well, and a legit boss in Geartown. Nearly legit anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 It's outright terrible. Honestly, they made it so bad it's barely even playable. In what situation would it be worth it to turn your 2 Gadjiltron Dragons into this instead of just keeping them on the field? There are hardly any significant monsters bar BLS that Geartown bosses can't run over. I don't think they needed to add the Machine-Type restriction; they definitely could have just kept it as is and given Dark Worlds a somewhat plausible toy. As is, it's bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='Neo Galaxy' timestamp='1342099209' post='5975293'] It's outright terrible. Honestly, they made it so bad it's barely even playable. In what situation would it be worth it to turn your 2 Gadjiltron Dragons into this instead of just keeping them on the field? There are hardly any significant monsters bar BLS that Geartown bosses can't run over. I don't think they needed to add the Machine-Type restriction; they definitely could have just kept it as is and given Dark Worlds a somewhat plausible toy. As is, it's bad. [/quote] I'm saying, this is proof Gimmick Puppets are coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1342100354' post='5975305'] I'm saying, this is proof Gimmick Puppets are coming. [/quote] Well I don't know anything about the Gimmick Puppets so I won't judge, but I'm just saying, this is outright bad. Unless you mean the Rank 8 Gimmick Puppets, both of which seem quite good; at least much better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='~Dark Soul~' timestamp='1342079890' post='5975208'] i'd like it more if it didn't switch the target to defense [/quote]It doesn't! It's much much worse. Guise, it still has 4500 ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1342100841' post='5975311'] It doesn't! It's much much worse. Guise, it still has 4500 ATK. [/quote] ATK strength seems slightly wierd nowadays. I mean, how on Earth does this look stronger than Quasar and Obelisk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 - Rank 8: 2 Level 8 Machine-Type monsters Saw some conditions coming here but... Machines? Seems... weird, although more viable than Zombies. - Cannot be Special Summoned, except by Xyz Summoning it, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. Perfectly fair. - Once per turn, during either player's turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card and send 1 card from your hand to the Graveyard to target 1 face-up card your opponent controls; change this card to Defense Position, and negate the effect of the target until the End Phase of this turn.[color=#333333] ([b]Effect unconfirmed[/b])[/color] Minus one and this thing being unable to attack/get run over for a Veiler? Really? Quite disappointed, expected a big nerf but as always gone from far overpowered to near useless. You'd probably be better off just summoning it and Omi-Gami Combo. That's saying something. [s]Why did they remove the can't attack females clause?[/s] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1342100841' post='5975311'] It doesn't! It's much much worse. [/quote] i read it wrong, i thought it switched the enemy to defense. oh well, i'm NEVER using it's effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Raptor Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 inb4therealtranslationisthatit'samandatoryeffect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 I [i]REALLY[/i] saw the position change effect coming. Oh, and the materials are manga-accurate, considering the 'Doll Monsters' are Bear/Robot/Dragon/Machine mis-mashed Monsters. Same with the discard effect, which it also had in the manga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1342103044' post='5975330'] ATK strength seems slightly wierd nowadays. I mean, how on Earth does this look stronger than Quasar and Obelisk? [/quote]About 500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 No, I mean Obelisk is a god of ancient Egypt and Shooting Quasar Dragon flies through space with galactic level power. Fran Ken is just a construct. He must have been taking lessons from Dr. Gero... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Raptor Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Orrrrrr let's just go with lolpowercreep. :U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Called Zombie since it's first thread. I don't think I'll be running this. Ever. Any Tanhauser Gate and Rescue Rabbit targets for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='-Berserker-' timestamp='1342132942' post='5975964'] Any Tanhauser Gate and Rescue Rabbit targets for this? [/quote] 5, actually. Battle Footballer being the most notable for having 2100 DEF. The others are Blocker, Golgoil, Mighty Guard, and Yaiba Robo. As for the card itself: it rather sucks. I hope, though, that it really does signal the approach of Gimmick Puppets. It would be funny to see them and maybe even Destiny Strings made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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