Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1342930322' post='5985185'] Hopeless was terrible and far inferior to Disaster Dragon. Combo with itself? You know that REDMD can't summon another copy of itself, right? [/quote] That was also around the time I was last out of the Meta, so I honestly don't know too much about it, but I do know that I faced a LOT of those decks, and a LOT of people ran them, on this site included. What I meant was feeding into other copies of itself, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1342930758' post='5985193'] That was also around the time I was last out of the Meta, so I honestly don't know too much about it, but I do know that I faced a LOT of those decks, and a LOT of people ran them, on this site included. [/quote]They were an internet favorite, because they were undermeta, and because they were just cool. They could summon out big beaters, but OTKing wasn't their primary objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Yea, Darkness Metal-Spam, as a deck, was hilarious before the Chaos Dragon structure deck came out. It was still rather herp-derp with Future Fusion, but you actually had to forfeit your Normal Summons, just so your Wyverns could revive your Metals. The deck was slow(Well, at times), could Summon big beaters out of nowhere, and was pretty cool as a deck back in the day. [i]NOW[/i], with the addition of Lightpulsar n' friends... Your deck, in a nutshell: [img]http://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/20545Lolmetagame.png[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Darkflare is hardly ever on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc. Posted July 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1342917582' post='5984989'] Cant we at least [b][i]know[/i][/b] the effect of orihalcos before we put it on random prediction lists? People are hyping it too much. [/quote] Well, knowing Konami, they'd make it an unremovable-attack boosting-crystalbeast backrowing piece of s*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 I really want Hornet to be banned like everybody else, but they're just going to limit Dragofly I hope I am wrong, but I'm probably right. On another note, with all the power cards out there, how many cards should we expect to get axed? There are about a dozen I want to go that won't get hit but should (Mind Control and Card Destruction for example. And maybe BLS) that I wonder if Konami will neglect removing them just because of the amount of banning they are already going to do, This makes me wonder about non archetype power cards and where they fit into yugioh. With the killing of creativity and giving us pre-made archetypes, are they just waiting for the right archetype to come along and warrant a ban? Sad thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='ウォーグレイモン' timestamp='1342973382' post='5985535'] Well, knowing Konami, they'd make it an unremovable-attack boosting-crystalbeast backrowing piece of s*** [/quote] You do realize people hyped Tour Bus and shoved it on banlists before it came out, now it's a meh card. Don't hype up cards when you don't even know what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 We should ask pojo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Hmm, let me have a go. 0- Future Fusion Wind-Up Hunter Brionac BLS Inzektor Hornet Monster Reborn REDMD Gateway of the Six Leviair the Sea Dragon 1- Rescue Rabbit One Day of Peace Blade Armour Ninja Premature Burial 2- Black Whirwind Earth Marshmallon Tour Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='Kabasaurus' timestamp='1342976863' post='5985597'] 0- Leviair the Sea Dragon 1- One Day of Peace Premature Burial 2- Black Whirwind [/quote] Leviair isn't a problem at all without Tour Guide abuse. Why the hell would you hit One Day over the alt wins that abuse it? Premature Burial is still recyclable and damn abusable, even with Brio at 1, and you should feel bad for mentioning it beign unbanned. Black Whirlwind turns anything into a floater. That's really damn bad design. If you wanna boost BW, do something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Ban stratos and leave armor ninja alone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='Kabasaurus' timestamp='1342976863' post='5985597'] Hmm, let me have a go. 0- Leviair the Sea Dragon 1- One Day of Peace Blade Armour Ninja Premature Burial 2- Black Whirwind Tour Guide [/quote] What Ravenous said for everything mostly. And Blade Armor Ninja? What, am I missing something? Black Whirlwind is fine at 2, apart from the fact that you don't hit stuff like Kalut. Tour Guide at 2, wat. 0 please, unless Sangan gets hit to 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1342979632' post='5985635'] Leviair isn't a problem at all without Tour Guide abuse. Why the hell would you hit One Day over the alt wins that abuse it? Premature Burial is still recyclable and damn abusable, even with Brio at 1, and you should feel bad for mentioning it beign unbanned. Black Whirlwind turns anything into a floater. That's really damn bad design. If you wanna boost BW, do something else. [/quote] Tour Guide in itself isn't particularly horrible, the main thing that makes it BROKEN is that it can go into broken Xyzs such as Leviair which then goes into a Laggia, and Zenmaity which starts the loop. It's splashable enough to go to 2, which also makes people think twice about running it. One Day is the problem card in that it basically acts as a Pot of Greed by drawing you one then giving you another Draw Phase. Brionac is banned and in a 3 MST format Prem Burial becomes weaker. Maybe you're right about Whirwind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 No, Tour Guide is in itself horrible, and should go to 1. The alt wins are problems ._. Premature Burial has Hidden Armory to recycle it, and counterability is never a legit argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/285527-chris-makesloosely-predicts-a-banlist/ Derp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Trooper @3 would be awesome if we didn't have duplication to break it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='Kabasaurus' timestamp='1342980892' post='5985657'] Tour Guide in itself isn't particularly horrible, the main thing that makes it BROKEN is that it can go into broken Xyzs such as Leviair which then goes into a Laggia, and Zenmaity which starts the loop. It's splashable enough to go to 2, which also makes people think twice about running it. One Day is the problem card in that it basically acts as a Pot of Greed by drawing you one then giving you another Draw Phase. Brionac is banned and in a 3 MST format Prem Burial becomes weaker. Maybe you're right about Whirwind. [/quote] People wont think twice about running Tour Guide if its at 2, limit it to 1, and then people will start thinking twice about running it. Premature Burial is a searchable Reborn that is abusable with Zephyros, Mist Valley Falcon, and Gol'gar. Keep it banned. Your opponent also draws a card, turning 1 Day of Peace into a -1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 ^ Card advantage does not matter if you are playing a deck that uses One Day of Peace. Really, if it said your opponent drew 3, it wouldn't make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Anyone putting Dolkka at anything other than 3 has no idea how this game works. Just saying. Also, why would Bulb go to 1 when there's no real reason to run more than 1 anyway? The only thing I'm sure will get hit, and this is the same thing I've said since the beginning of the format, is Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon. I'm not sure how they'll hit it, but I'd be willing to put money on it getting hit somehow. I also expect MST to go to 2 and Giant Trunade to switch places with Heavy Storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='- Neo -' timestamp='1342988705' post='5985770']I also expect MST to go to 2 and Giant Trunade to switch places with Heavy Storm. [/quote] Why on earth would they do that ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1342990820' post='5985797'] Why on earth would they do that ._. [/quote] It seems like something they'd do to promote Night Beam's use more, etc., and then it just seems like the latter switches places every format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='- Neo -' timestamp='1342991445' post='5985803'] It seems like something they'd do to promote Night Beam's use more, etc., and then it just seems like the latter switches places every format. [/quote] I'm pretty sure Konami decided that Heavy Storm was thirty times more healthy. They could possibly put MST at 2 if they want to encourage Night Beam, but doubt they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1342992731' post='5985816'] I'm pretty sure Konami decided that Heavy Storm was thirty times more healthy. They could possibly put MST at 2 if they want to encourage Night Beam, but doubt they will. [/quote] I prefer Heavy Storm, but don't forget that "Storm" card that was released in GAOV. It's bad, but in a format with no Heavy Storm, there might not be a better option for a mass-field clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='- Neo -' timestamp='1342993316' post='5985820'] I prefer Heavy Storm, but don't forget that "Storm" card that was released in GAOV. It's bad, but in a format with no Heavy Storm, there might not be a better option for a mass-field clearer. [/quote] But Heavy Storm is a well-designed field clearer so I'm not sure why they would get rid of it unless they want to seriously slow down the format. The more intelligent way of slowing down the format, if Konami wanted to, is just to ban all the cards that should be on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 They already replaced Trunade with Storm before (I'm not crazy, right?), and all it did was encourage tons of traps, to the point that you were afraid to make a single move in the game (at least, that's how I remember it). Using Trunade means you no longer risk your own back row, and don't have to worry about wasting your cards. Really, though, Trunade only saved you for a turn, so it is only useful for a single turn, promoting use with OTKs. Heavy Storm, on the other hand, while still a big OTK-fueling machine, can be used any time to gain advantage or get rid of pesky cards that could screw with your entire turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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