Blake Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='HSektor' timestamp='1342920950' post='5985048'] Guys, before going all "BAN DA WABBIT", please look on how Rabbit decks are doing on Japan. (Protip: they don't have Tour Guide, interesting huh?) [/quote] So we should bring Rescue Cat back and ban Airbellum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSektor Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='Tsukasa Hiiragi' timestamp='1342921000' post='5985049'] That combo was dropped long ago. Also Rabbit does better in TCG because of TGU and Dolkka. [/quote] I see. Well, Tour guide and Evolzars still deserving a limit. Maybe Gold Sarc doesn't deserve it.[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1342921105' post='5985051'] So we should bring Rescue Cat back and ban Airbellum? [/quote] Cat is way more abusable and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='byakksmodeus' timestamp='1342919363' post='5985022'] Forbidden: Wind-Up Hunter Inzektor Hornet Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon Elemental HERO Stratos Sangan Limited: Rescue Rabbit Ultimate Offering Semi-Limited: Tour Guide From the Underworld + other stuff [/quote]This, basically, though I really don't see them banning Stratos. Just cause Konami. [quote name='HSektor' timestamp='1342920950' post='5985048'] Guys, before going all "BAN DA WABBIT", please look on how Rabbit decks are doing on Japan. [/quote]Where Verz Rabbit is still tier 1 or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSektor Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1342921265' post='5985054'] Where Verz Rabbit is still tier 1 or 2. [/quote] Alright, limit the damn Wabbit....my billy decks ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='HSektor' timestamp='1342921239' post='5985052'] Cat is way more abusable and you know it. [/quote] And? Rabbit's still JUST as badly designed as cat. It says "Hey, let's give this undersupported group a boost!" but instead of giving vanillas a boost, it gives a 1-card Xyz to whatever can abuse it most. Have you seen what Gem-Knights can do off of a single rabbit? A f*** ton. Also, like Aggro said, SwarmRabbit is tier 1/2 in Japan. Last I saw, 2, but unsure since. EDIT: Ninja'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Zars deserve nothing because they're abused by an abusive card. (Pssst, it's Rescue Rabbit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSektor Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 f***, Konami will never give a good support for Normals without breaking it. ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1342921485' post='5985059'] Also, like Aggro said, SwarmRabbit is tier 1/2 in Japan. Last I saw, 2, but unsure since. [/quote]Weren't they ranked as like the 3rd or 4th best deck behind Inzektors, HEROs, and Hieratics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1342921265' post='5985054'] Where Verz Rabbit is still tier 1 or 2. [/quote] This... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Banned: REDMD Hunter Hornet Sangan BLS Monster Reborn Chain Material (just because) Limited: Rabbit One Day of Peace (for those Exodia/Countdown haters) Semi'd: TGU Debris +Other stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 just ban the alternate win conditions instead of hitting one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 I still don't like Solemn on legs, even if you do hit Rabbit. Its not like its difficult to get out either, at least, not as difficult as SDAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='Wizarus' timestamp='1342923264' post='5985087']I still don't like Solemn on legs, even if you do hit Rabbit. Its not like its difficult to get out either, at least, not as difficult as SDAM.[/quote]Except it can only be used once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='Airride_Master' timestamp='1342923646' post='5985090'] Except it can only be used once. [/quote]That's STILL a Solemn on legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='HSektor' timestamp='1342920950' post='5985048'] Tour Guide = Leviair Leviair + Gold Sarc = Insta Rabbit It's the standard combo, you know...? I don't think that plants be that broken with 1 lonefire, 1 debris, 1 dandylion and no trishula. [/quote] I don't see how your first point really counters what I was saying... unless you weren't trying to counter what I was saying. On the second note, Glow-Up is not a "Plants" card, it's a free Tuner that also can help mill. A free card for no effort is just horrible. If you go into Formula, it's even more free crap. Spore is more situational, but it's definitely not relegated to being only a Plant deck. Now it can be used for a range of Exceeds as well, considering you can manipulate its Level. Giga(s)eeds wouldn't really exist because of it, since Gigaplant is level 6, but you can still pull off 3's and 4's quite easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseSymphony Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Banned: REDMD Wind-Up Hunter Gateway of the Six Inzektor Hornet Evolzar Laggia BLS Limited: Grapha Tour Guide Semi-Limited: Rabbit Unlimited: Spore Tsukuyomi ~-~ Yeah. Prolly missed a lot of stuff, and banned way too many things, but idgaf. REDMD and Hunter being banned is pretty much a consensus in this thread, and it's perfectly reasonable why they should be. Gateway of the Six is just f**king retarded. Hornet should go, as Inzektors aren't completely destroyed without it. If Laggia goes, DinoRabbit becomes less BS without it's walking Solemn. Also, it's time for BLS to go. Seriously. I don't know anything about DWs, so Grapha is Limited because something needed to be hit. Also, Tour Guide because obvious. Rabbit is actually a fun card in Decks not named Dino Rabbit, so I don't think it should be killed completely. Get rid of Laggia, Dino Rabbit becomes less good (but not terrible), and Rabbit can still be used in non-meta Decks. Spore seriously needs to be unbanned. Konami went way overboard with the Synchro hit, and Spore was caught in the crossfire. It's not that broken, guys. It's practically only good in dedicated Plant Decks. Glow Up can stay gone, but seriously. Those eyes are just begging to be lifted from the banlist. Also, Tsukuyomi because why is it still there I don't even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Idk why people want REDMD banned, I mean @1 the Heiratic OTK doesn't work and Chaos Drags lose their a bit of consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 REDMD is a 3-0 card The problem is its interactions with Lightpulsar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='byakksmodeus' timestamp='1342927747' post='5985141'] REDMD is a 3-0 card The problem is its interactions with Lightpulsar [/quote] It was an OTK machine since before the Chaos dragons, or has everyone already forgotten that? It's another card that generates bullcrap advantage for little-to-no effort, especially among copies of itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='byakksmodeus' timestamp='1342927747' post='5985141'] REDMD is a 3-0 card The problem is its interactions with Lightpulsar [/quote] Honestly I still don't see it that way. Only thing I've seen a problem with is the Heiratic OTK, though I will not deny it's not exactly good card design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Have you actually read Lightpulsar Dragon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1342927982' post='5985147'] It was an OTK machine since before the Chaos dragons, or has everyone already forgotten that? [/quote]No, I remember a control deck by the name of Disaster Dragon that on occasion, could OTK. Like any other deck.[quote name='byakksmodeus' timestamp='1342928828' post='5985155'] Have you actually read Lightpulsar Dragon? [/quote]Honestly, at 1, REDMD is easily eliminated. Bottomless, Crow. Even one stops everything entirely. 2 could get around it easier, but 1 will have issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Just because it's counterable doesn't make it not a problem. And D.D. Crow sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1342928978' post='5985157'] No, I remember a control deck by the name of Disaster Dragon that on occasion, could OTK. Like any other deck. Honestly, at 1, REDMD is easily eliminated. Bottomless, Crow. Even one stops everything entirely. 2 could get around it easier, but 1 will have issues. [/quote] You're [i]hopeless[/i]. As far as REDMD goes, at 1 at least it couldn't combo with itself, but it would still be a very stupidly strong card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1342930011' post='5985181'] You're [i]hopeless[/i]. As far as REDMD goes, at 1 at least it couldn't combo with itself, but it would still be a very stupidly strong card. [/quote]Hopeless was terrible and far inferior to Disaster Dragon. Combo with itself? You know that REDMD can't summon another copy of itself, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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