Agro Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120429212134/yugioh/images/thumb/7/7c/ThatWackyMagic-GAOV-EN-C-1E.png/300px-ThatWackyMagic-GAOV-EN-C-1E.png[/img] I still don't get it. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Spellbooks--*gets blasted by Dark Magic Attack* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Well, at least it's better than Lightning Vortex. In almost any deck, there's no point to spells in your grave, and you're bound to have them floating in there. I wouldn't call it a great card, but... it's better than Lightning Vortex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Still the best name change ever printed on a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Funny name, horribly tragic picture. A magician being killed by the things she studied and loved her whole life, while her dear loving pet desperately try to save her and fail. Now she dies a slow tragic death while her beloved comrades watch as they cannot do a single thing... but weep. .... i'm too dramatic, anyways this card would kill prophecy/spellbook unless they run a lot of almas. It doesn't seem too helpful, but a balanced alternative to raigeki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 She tried to use too many Pitch Black Powerstones at once, with the maximum of 5, she chose 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1343139938' post='5987496'] She tried to use too many Pitch Black Powerstones at once, with the maximum of 5, she chose 6. [/quote] Poor girl, and she had to bring her pets *sighs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1343106317' post='5987162'] Well, at least it's better than Lightning Vortex. In almost any deck, there's no point to spells in your grave, and you're bound to have them floating in there. I wouldn't call it a great card, but... it's better than Lightning Vortex. [/quote]Lightning is still better (in most decks). This card is dead for a long time. You'd need at least 5 spells in the grave to take out anything decent, and even then there's a lot of threats it wont kill. The discard hurts lightning, but at least you can use it if you really need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Superdoopertrooper' timestamp='1343140260' post='5987504'] Lightning is still better (in most decks). This card is dead for a long time. You'd need at least 5 spells in the grave to take out anything decent, and even then there's a lot of threats it wont kill. The discard hurts lightning, but at least you can use it if you really need to. [/quote] I suppose with the advent of Exceeds, average Defense has increased a lot, but a lot of threats used to be ~1000 DEF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 And then there's some other card that destroys monsters on the field... I can't remember it... [img]http://images.wikia.com/shamanking/en/images/0/0d/Black_Hole.JPG[/img] Unless you're using Blasting the Ruins OTK, you won't have enough Spells, and if you are, it ruins the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1343141037' post='5987520'] And then there's some other card that destroys monsters on the field... I can't remember it... [img]http://images.wikia.com/shamanking/en/images/0/0d/Black_Hole.JPG[/img] Unless you're using Blasting the Ruins OTK, you won't have enough Spells, and if you are, it ruins the deck. [/quote] Yeah but in an ideal world, Dark Hole would have its broken backside in the forbidden section. In the realm of balanced monster removal, this card certainly isn't terrible, but realistically it's only useful for taking out minor threats. 3 spells in grave = goodbye Thunder King (plus whatever other weenies they may have on board). I'd probably still play Fissure and Smashing Ground over it though . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Dark Hole's good design right now, though. It stops players from over-extending and punishes players who do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Vengevine' timestamp='1343145028' post='5987624'] Dark Hole's good design right now, though. It stops players from over-extending and punishes players who do. [/quote]I just hate seeing two normal summoned monsters get washed away for an undeserved +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Who Normal Summons monsters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Personally, 400 per Spell card would have been better, while still being within its range of concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Vengevine' timestamp='1343145028' post='5987624'] Dark Hole's good design right now, though. It stops players from over-extending and punishes players who do. [/quote] It also punishes players for playing defensively, and sets up OTKs better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1343149003' post='5987683'] It also punishes players for playing defensively, and sets up OTKs better. [/quote]Heavy Storm does that better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1343149778' post='5987695'] Heavy Storm does that better. [/quote] I dunno. I would be a lot more upset losing 3-4 monsters I had been gathering onto my field over the turns than 3-4 spells/traps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1343150015' post='5987702'] I dunno. I would be a lot more upset losing 3-4 monsters I had been gathering onto my field over the turns than 3-4 spells/traps. [/quote] Losing monsters isn't a big deal at all, as they're a renewable resource, whilst Spells / Traps aren't. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1343150422' post='5987708'] Losing monsters isn't a big deal at all, as they're a renewable resource, whilst Spells / Traps aren't. :/ [/quote] I'm talking about a less aggressive and "lol flood the field" style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Alda Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1343150422' post='5987708'] Losing monsters isn't a big deal at all, as they're a renewable resource, whilst Spells / Traps aren't. :/ [/quote] Agreed. Spells/Traps are pretty difficult to get back. I found that out when I was making a custom Spell recycler, "Recycle Bin Restore" (finding the link and commenting would be necrobumping). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1343150484' post='5987709'] I'm talking about a less aggressive and "lol flood the field" style. [/quote]So what your saying is... Overextending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1343151713' post='5987731'] So what your saying is... Overextending. [/quote] Yes, because not flooding the field is overextending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1343151835' post='5987733'] Yes, because not flooding the field is overextending. [/quote]Yes, because your sentence structure was insurmountable. Heavy allows many more OTKs than Dark Hole does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 It's still not a terrible card. In a Spell heavy Deck, it might actually make for an interesting tech. It's definitely outclassed but I've considered throwing one in Bubblebeat merely as a test to see how well it would work since most of your Spell Cards are useless while in the Graveyard and you [i]do[/i] go through them so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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