Galkin Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 [img]http://i.imgur.com/ktKl7.jpg[/img] [quote]When this card is Tribute Summoned: Inflict damage to your opponent equal to the Original ATK of the tributed monster. If this card is destroyed: Your opponent targets 1 Monster Card in your Graveyard; you take damage equal to the Original ATK of the targeted monster.[/quote] Just some lulzy card I made from this awesome picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicBoss99 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 The first part of that effect is [color=#ff0000]super broken[/color]. You could tribute 5 headed dragon for this and your opponent would instantly lose 5000 life points, more if it has an equip card. Everything else was fine. And yes, that is an awesome picture. 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 If you Tribute FGD for the Tribute Summon of this, then you deserve to deal the 5k damage. You would also deserve to have the awesomeness that is Beaver Warrior being your duel spirit. Since most of the time, the Tributed Monster will be weak, you will deal lulzy damage to your opponent with the first effect, but the potential of it burning from cards like Flamvell Firedog or something makes increasing the burn a little too risky (and the fact that Tributing cards like 4k beaters, Endless Decay, and FGD exist). It could be upped a little more in terms of ATK (other than the fact that it is a Horn target), and I'm going to go on a wild guess that you could also have the self-burning effect be half the ATK of the selected monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Image Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 If you tribute FHD with an equip, it still deals only 5k because it's only dealing Original ATK. Lulzy, great picture (very Yu-Gi-Oh!-like), and not broken. 8.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliceACard Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I really like this card, it really looks like a card they would actually release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galkin Posted September 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 [quote] Since most of the time, the Tributed Monster will be weak, you will deal lulzy damage to your opponent with the first effect, but the potential of it burning from cards like Flamvell Firedog or something makes increasing the burn a little too risky (and the fact that Tributing cards like 4k beaters, Endless Decay, and FGD exist). It could be upped a little more in terms of ATK (other than the fact that it is a Horn target), and I'm going to go on a wild guess that you could also have the self-burning effect be half the ATK of the selected monster. [/quote] One of the things I wanted with this card is a risk-for-reward effect. You put out great damage, but you risk taking greater damage. One of the ways to avoid self-burning is simply playing D.D because it only targets graveyards. I think I can up the ATK to 2200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 I'm really against burn in most forms, since it rarely provides interaction with the opponent (aka, the point of playing a multi-player game.) When you do make burn cards, I prefer things like, "Your opponent must do X or take Y damage." or something - at least it gives the opponent a choice to interact with. As for the balance, it feels too weak. Burn isn't considered that useful outside of OTKs in the current control-based meta, and this is likely to hurt you more than the opponent. It's a -1 that requires a fairly strong tribute, compared to +0 monarchs which can use trash as a tribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 You may be able to press with this card's effect for a win while it's still on the field. Once it gets destroyed, you will probably take more damage than your opponent did. But this only has 2000 ATK; even if you Tribute Summoned it with Vice Dragon or something, you'd be better off using cheap removal on your opponent's monsters and attacking directly than using a Tribute Summon up for Dinochick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Instead of having the burn from tribute, have it burn equal to a monsters atk on field. And when it goes away, have the controller choose a monster in the opponent's graveyard to ss or burn from. Also, you can build it like hieratics and have the tribute be a special summon. just some thoughts. Otherwise its a decent random card with substantial negs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 its fine as but maybe 2300 or 2400 (monarch sort of) destoryed means even if macro cosmos out the effect will still take effect the trick to keep your graave free of targets for the effect simple soul release one of the best combo dimensional fissure/macro comsos is activated or have soul release in hand play field spell card or terraforming first if needed ss cyber end dragon if your opponent controls a monster banish cyber end dragon to ss malefic cyber end dragon tribute malefic cyber end for this guy havle their lp is gone now you can xyz summon a rank 5 if able to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 [quote name='Garthfunkle Vii Backwards' timestamp='1347963764' post='6027188'] its fine as but maybe 2300 or 2400 (monarch sort of) destoryed means even if macro cosmos out the effect will still take effect the trick to keep your graave free of targets for the effect simple soul release one of the best combo dimensional fissure/macro comsos is activated or have soul release in hand play field spell card or terraforming first if needed ss cyber end dragon if your opponent controls a monster banish cyber end dragon to ss malefic cyber end dragon tribute malefic cyber end for this guy havle their lp is gone now you can xyz summon a rank 5 if able to [/quote] See that, that was a giant hand minus and you didn't even OTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 [quote name='Mr.WHAM' timestamp='1347964389' post='6027192'] See that, that was a giant hand minus and you didn't even OTK. [/quote] this would be a 2-3 turn strategy to save your hand proving its balanced and would require a specific deck and still do not otk but in a malefic deck when even you need to dish out major lp as long you successfully preform the combo 2-3 its would be a win depending if lp was gain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 [quote name='Garthfunkle Vii Backwards' timestamp='1347965481' post='6027199'] this would be a 2-3 turn strategy to save your hand proving its balanced and would require a specific deck and still do not otk but in a malefic deck when even you need to dish out major lp as long you successfully preform the combo 2-3 its would be a win depending if lp was gain [/quote] And in the mean time, sams, maldoches, dragons, mermails,dark worlds, geargias etc all have otk'd you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'll read the above comments after I say this: The picture is awesome, can you show me where you found it? =0 and the effect is abusable. You do not even need Five Headed Dragon for it xD There is this card called "Roket Arrow Express". A 5000 ATK monster that prevents you from doing mostly anything with it except for Tributing it (it even skips your Battle Phase). So the combo is, Roket Arrow > Tribute Summon your Chick > burn for 5000 > let your chicken be destroyed and deal at least 2000 more damage from your opponent Targetting your chicken rather than the 5k Express. Just from that, you are about to win already. ^The combo is inconsistent, but viable. [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120430010636/yugioh/images/thumb/9/90/RocketArrowExpress-GAOV-EN-R-1E.jpg/300px-RocketArrowExpress-GAOV-EN-R-1E.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galkin Posted September 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 [quote]let your chicken be destroyed and deal at least 2000 more damage from your opponent Targetting your chicken rather than the 5k Express.[/quote] Wait, what? Your opponent is way likely to target your Rocket Arrow so they can deal 5000 damage back at you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 [quote name='Galkin' timestamp='1348008894' post='6027615'] Wait, what? Your opponent is way likely to target your Rocket Arrow so they can deal 5000 damage back at you... [/quote] *re-reads* Oh.. the second damage is done at you... I missread that part, sorry. Though, it creates a 3 card OTK with Barrel Behind the Door and Spell of Pain. What do you think of that possibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galkin Posted September 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I don't usually want to think much about Barrel and Spell of Pain when chaining to your own card effects. There is a ruling contradiction that states that in the OCG, you CAN'T do, this because you can only use it in response to a card your opponent activates. So, I'm not sure if that is a legal move at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Yeah that got me confused too some time ago, because cards shouldn't do different things in different places. The translators' fault. Though, Spell of Pain doesn't seem to say anything pointing to your opponent having to be the one inflicting the damage in TCG rulings as far as I've seen, and if they do, they haven't clarified it even in reprints: [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_of_Pain"]http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_of_Pain[/url] I get another reason being that using Barrel and Spell of Pain has always been a rather situational choice, even in Decks dedicated to it, which is why I can't quite assure that this is an overpowered card or not. In paper it sounds insane, but yeah, in paper.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 can not [quote name='Sleepy' timestamp='1348007761' post='6027603'] I'll read the above comments after I say this: The picture is awesome, can you show me where you found it? =0 and the effect is abusable. You do not even need Five Headed Dragon for it xD There is this card called "Roket Arrow Express". A 5000 ATK monster that prevents you from doing mostly anything with it except for Tributing it (it even skips your Battle Phase). So the combo is, Roket Arrow > Tribute Summon your Chick > burn for 5000 > let your chicken be destroyed and deal at least 2000 more damage from your opponent Targetting your chicken rather than the 5k Express. Just from that, you are about to win already. ^The combo is inconsistent, but viable. [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120430010636/yugioh/images/thumb/9/90/RocketArrowExpress-GAOV-EN-R-1E.jpg/300px-RocketArrowExpress-GAOV-EN-R-1E.jpg[/img] [/quote] rocket arrow eff when summon it destory everything on your side of the field and hand as long its on the field when during your standby phase you must send it to the grave then you can not activate or summon anything the effect [Spoiler=see?] Cannot be [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Normal_Summon"]Normal Summoned[/url] or [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Set"]Set[/url]. Must be [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Summon"]Special Summoned[/url] (from your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand"]hand[/url]) by [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control"]controlling[/url] no cards, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. You cannot conduct your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_Phase"]Battle Phase[/url] the [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Turn"]turn[/url] you Special Summon this card. You cannot [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Activate"]activate[/url] cards or [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect"]effects[/url], or Set any cards. During each of your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Standby_Phase"]Standby Phases[/url], [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroy"]destroy[/url] this card unless you [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Send"]send[/url] all cards in your hand to the [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard"]Graveyard[/url] (min. 1). [/Spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 [quote name='Garthfunkle Vii Backwards' timestamp='1348048622' post='6027845'] can not rocket arrow eff when summon it destory everything on your side of the field and hand as long its on the field when during your standby phase you must send it to the grave then you can not activate or summon anything the effect [Spoiler=see?] Cannot be [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Normal_Summon"]Normal Summoned[/url] or [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Set"]Set[/url]. Must be [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Summon"]Special Summoned[/url] (from your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hand"]hand[/url]) by [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Control"]controlling[/url] no cards, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. You cannot conduct your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_Phase"]Battle Phase[/url] the [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Turn"]turn[/url] you Special Summon this card. You cannot [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Activate"]activate[/url] cards or [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_effect"]effects[/url], or Set any cards. During each of your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Standby_Phase"]Standby Phases[/url], [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destroy"]destroy[/url] this card unless you [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Send"]send[/url] all cards in your hand to the [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Graveyard"]Graveyard[/url] (min. 1). [/Spoiler] [/quote] I know the card sounds like a joke at first glance, but it's not as bad as it seems. -You need to have no field to Summon it, but you can have all the hand you want. -When you loose your hand is until your [b]Standby Phase[/b], which already passed when you are Summoning it. -It doesn't let you activate effects, it doesn't let you Set other cards, it doesn't let you activate other cards. Well, monsters don't "activate" when they are Summoned. They are, well, "Summoned". Which is about the only thing this card let's you do. IRL, I planned on using it with Great Maju Garzet (gains double the ATK of what you Tribute) for an instant 10,000 ATK monster in exchange for the Battle Phase, and I made sure it worked by reading it about a dozen times and asking other people if I was missing something that prevented me from doing it. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 rae is one of those extremely confusing things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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