Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 [Spoiler=info] a way to get certain cards out in the graveyard on banished when the time calls for it do i need to say more [/Spoiler] [Spoiler=card] [img]http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx221/judedudemud3/Psychomancys%20Cry%20for%20the%20Xyz_zpsc9bfce95.jpg[/img] [/Spoiler] [Spoiler=effect] You can Special Summon 1 rank 4 or lower Xyz monsters from your Extra Deck (except for a rank 3 or rank 4 higher "Number" monsters), it can not attack this turn or tributed. You can not Xyz Summon or Special Summon any "Number" monster this turn. During the End Phase destroy it the monster that was Special Summon by this card's effect. [/Spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 So use this, Special Summon Number 32: Shark Drake or Constellar Omega, Xyz into Number C32: Shark Drake Vice (in case of Shark Drake) or into Constellar Ptolemys Messier 7 (in case of Omega). Good lord, what are you thinking when you make these cards? Do you like not research the subject at hand before you incorporate it into a card effect? Really, this card alone would make people, who couldn't even make Shark Drake or Omega in the first place, run C32 or Messier 7, or actually, both, because everybody would run 3 copies of this card. And no, there is no way to balance this card without making it completely useless. So yeah, this card is just another example on how you don't know how to make balanced cards. |: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 edit it cuz of the ocg and add spoilers sorry about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 So it can't be used as Xyz material this turn? It's pretty useless now, then. You get an effectless, level-less, attack-less monster. Instant Fusion would be far more useful. The problem is, it's basically going to be: A] Jester Confit, but a bit worse. B] Probably broken due to free Xyz Summons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 [quote name='Garthfunkle Vii Backwards' timestamp='1348078477' post='6028077'] edit it cuz of the ocg and add spoilers sorry about that [/quote] I told you that it cannot be fixed, unless you want the end result to be a worthless piece of toilet paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 [quote name='-Griffin' timestamp='1348078701' post='6028082'] So it can't be used as Xyz material this turn? It's pretty useless now, then. You get an effectless, level-less, attack-less monster. Instant Fusion would be far more useful. [/quote] the effect was not negated so a card to give it a xyz material or temp shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 [quote name='Garthfunkle Vii Backwards' timestamp='1348078912' post='6028090'] the effect was not negated so a cardto give it a xyz material or temp shield [/quote] ...give it an Xyz Material...how? |: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1348078955' post='6028091'] ...give it an Xyz Material...how? |: [/quote] overlay regen overlay eater xyz unit (does not attach as xyz material but sort of works) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Sooo the only monster that is useful in this situations would be maestorke Which means you needed 3 cards to equal out to a book of moon. Its still doesn't seem worth it. Well maybe zenmaister but still this reads weird. Almost as a ridiculously circuitous way of saying of doing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 I do not really find a use for this card IRL. It doesn't work with Numbers, so I'm going to assume that that Constellar cards (which I don't really know) that Zanda Panda mentioned are pretty much the only combo. That would make this card abusive for it's only use, and useless for anything else. One-Trick-Pony is the term. With a single way to use it, it is a card that does not make the player think at all about how they are going to use it. Also, the card's only use seems to be abusive, making this card's only use bad for the game by itself, on top of the card already being bad for the game. I also must point out that, you seem to mean that this card was going to work with your Xyz monster from the other thread [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/289876-dartagan-a-single-xyz/"]http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/289876-dartagan-a-single-xyz/[/url] but there's a detail there. If your Spell does not specify "This is treated as an Xyz Summon", then it is NOT an Xyz Summon, and your monster cannot be revived even by it's own effect. In the same way "Stardust Dragon" does NOT revive when you use it's effect after it was Special Summoned by "Starlight Road". So the combo is not viable. Needs more versatility without breaking it, but I'd lie if I said I know exactly what the changes should be to do so and still keep the idea similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 [quote name='Sleepy' timestamp='1348083186' post='6028126'] I do not really find a use for this card IRL. It doesn't work with Numbers, so I'm going to assume that that Constellar cards (which I don't really know) that Zanda Panda mentioned are pretty much the only combo. That would make this card abusive for it's only use, and useless for anything else. [/quote] You can't even do the Omega to Messier 7 move with this card anymore, which renders the card completely useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 [quote name='Sleepy' timestamp='1348083186' post='6028126'] I do not really find a use for this card IRL. It doesn't work with Numbers, so I'm going to assume that that Constellar cards (which I don't really know) that Zanda Panda mentioned are pretty much the only combo. That would make this card abusive for it's only use, and useless for anything else. One-Trick-Pony is the term. With a single way to use it, it is a card that does not make the player think at all about how they are going to use it. Also, the card's only use seems to be abusive, making this card's only use bad for the game by itself, on top of the card already being bad for the game. I also must point out that, you seem to mean that this card was going to work with your Xyz monster from the other thread [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/289876-dartagan-a-single-xyz/"]http://forum.yugiohc...n-a-single-xyz/[/url] but there's a detail there. If your Spell does not specify "This is treated as an Xyz Summon", then it is NOT an Xyz Summon, and your monster cannot be revived even by it's own effect. In the same way "Stardust Dragon" does NOT revive when you use it's effect after it was Special Summoned by "Starlight Road". So the combo is not viable. Needs more versatility without breaking it, but I'd lie if I said I know exactly what the changes should be to do so and still keep the idea similar. [/quote] i know about that since it was not "propperly summoned" and thats not where im going for xyz summoning number part was put in to prevent choas xyz change which as zanda panda stated eariler would make this broke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 The thing is, now that it's treated as an Xyz Summon, it allows cards like Xyz Reborn and other revival to be set off more easily. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garthfunkle Vii Backwards Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1348087793' post='6028170'] The thing is, now that it's treated as an Xyz Summon, it allows cards like Xyz Reborn and other revival to be set off more easily. :/ [/quote] i edit the post to have it treated as xyz summoning but then reverted it back becuase i feel if i add xyz summoning to might make it overpowered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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