Synchronized Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 [IMG]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121018073646/yugioh/images/thumb/f/f6/SpiritualWaterArtAoi-SDRE-EN-C-1E.jpg/300px-SpiritualWaterArtAoi-SDRE-EN-C-1E.jpg[/IMG] [quote]Tribute 1 WATER monster; look at your opponent's hand, then send 1 card from their hand to the Graveyard.[/quote] Just want to start this by saying this is purely [i]speculation[/i] at this point in terms of whether or not it will see print here, but Astral Pack 01 comes out shortly (mid-November if I'm correct), and there's been tons of discussion going around multiple sites about what many of the unannounced foils (there are about nine of them right now) may be. With this card's print in the Realm of the Sea Emperor Deck, I figured it might be worth a second look, and I tested it to moderate success in Atlanteans, although my build was flawed and I didn't know all too well how it works so I'm not much of a valid source. That said, the card is brilliant in terms of card design in that it's balanced in its own weird way, but can make for some crazy hand control with itself, Mind Crush, Moulinglacia, and abuseable WATER monsters that recycle and do things of that nature. It's a very good card. I think it's definitely possible we could see this as a Super print depending on how much they want to promote the WATER set and whether or not this sees any play, but I'd definitely be thrilled to pick up a set, as it's one of my favorite cards and I think the Super foil would look amazing. Anyway, am I crazy? Is this thing just terrible? Idk, discuss, generate interesting conversation, go~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Any card that has the opportunity to look at your opponent's hand is pretty dangerous, in my opinion. It can lead you to stopping your opponent's plays if you have the proper outsnand if your opponent doesn't have any outs, control of the match pretty much shifts to you. That's why I don't like cards like Dragged Down/this/Trap Dustshoot/etc. It may not look it, but peeking at your opponent's hand and deducing their strategy isn't hard work, especially in this meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Eria <3 This is freaking amazing. It's well-designed (mostly) and is a good chainable -1. [quote name='みゆきサン' timestamp='1351865230' post='6059375'] Any card that has the opportunity to look at your opponent's hand is pretty dangerous, in my opinion. It can lead you to stopping your opponent's plays if you have the proper outsnand if your opponent doesn't have any outs, control of the match pretty much shifts to you. That's why I don't like cards like Dragged Down/this/Trap Dustshoot/etc. It may not look it, but peeking at your opponent's hand and deducing their strategy isn't hard work, especially in this meta. [/quote] Looking at the opponent's deck through any kind of effect will, more of less, the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 I don't see this getting it. Though I see Utopia getting a reprint for the upteenth time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1351865600' post='6059378'] I don't see this getting it. Though I see Utopia getting a reprint for the upteenth time. [/quote] That's almost a necessity at this point, and Utopia will undoubtedly be one of the Ultimates, giving it an actually valuable version, considering even the current hardest-to-acquire rarity, which is DT Super, is only like $5. Still, I wouldn't rule this out especially with the heavy push for WATER right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 [quote name='- Neo -' timestamp='1351865745' post='6059381'] That's almost a necessity at this point, and Utopia will undoubtedly be one of the Ultimates, giving it an actually valuable version, considering even the current hardest-to-acquire rarity, which is DT Super, is only like $5. Still, I wouldn't rule this out especially with the heavy push for WATER right now. [/quote]Hey. That super is $8, thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1351865880' post='6059384'] Hey. That super is $8, thank you very much. [/quote] Really? Cool, I sold mine for $12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 [url="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yugioh-Number-39-Utopia-DT07-EN034-Super-Duel-Terminal-M-NM-/281015043101?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&hash=item416dcd441d"]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yugioh-Number-39-Utopia-DT07-EN034-Super-Duel-Terminal-M-NM-/281015043101?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&hash=item416dcd441d[/url] Facts beg to differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 My bet on Astral Pack Ultimates- Arcanite Magician Utopia Tsukoyomi Supers- 4 already announced Gemini Spark Swap Frog Wind-Up Magician Genex Undine Hope for Escape One Day of Peace roughly OT, card is amazing and should be run in pure Atlanteans if maybe not Mermails. Chainable too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Undine comes Super already, though. It wouldn't make much sense to print something that already comes Super as a Super again. That, and I can't help but think that one of the "never before released" cards, like the ones that will come in the packs, will be an Ultimate, perhaps Volcasaurus or something. --- Either way, I definitely hope this card sees more play as WATER Hand Control is such a fun Deck to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Exa Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 [quote name='- Neo -' timestamp='1351864816' post='6059371'] With this card's print in the Realm of the Sea Emperor Deck, I figured it might be worth a second look [/quote] The only reason it was printed in there is because Konami always prints Spiritual Arts in Attribute-based Structure Decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Treeborn makes this a -0. Oh the love I had when Monarchs were gods... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Any deck using some WATER monsters should at least consider this card, it can give you such an advantage in a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 [quote name='Chance Furlong' timestamp='1351867828' post='6059407'] Treeborn makes this a -0. Oh the love I had when Monarchs were gods... [/quote]Except you need to wait a turn after you've set this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 [quote name='- Neo -' timestamp='1351866755' post='6059399'] Undine comes Super already, though. It wouldn't make much sense to print something that already comes Super as a Super again. [/quote] While that's true, but wasn't that Super a DT Super if I'm not mistaken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 [quote name='- Neo -' timestamp='1351866755' post='6059399']Undine comes Super already, though. It wouldn't make much sense to print something that already comes Super as a Super again.[/quote]Dolkka was a secret. Heliopolis was a secret. Lots of other things repeat their rarities (Like Utopia as ultra...twice.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Cards like this poop on conservative players. You didn't activate Dark Hole as soon as you drew it? Goodbye. Didn't play Heavy Storm? Goodbye. Saving your power monster for next turn? Too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 [quote name='~British Soul~' timestamp='1351877063' post='6059537'] While that's true, but wasn't that Super a DT Super if I'm not mistaken? [/quote] It was, but I'm just saying I'd rather that spot be given to something that doesn't yet have a Super (or a foil at all, really) print. I understand they did it with the tins but with Astral Packs geared towards competitive players (or at least people who play at Tournaments/Events), you'd think they'll try and focus on rarity upgrades and making some commonly-played cards easier to obtain for budget players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 [quote name='- Neo -' timestamp='1351889798' post='6059714'] It was, but I'm just saying I'd rather that spot be given to something that doesn't yet have a Super (or a foil at all, really) print. I understand they did it with the tins but with Astral Packs geared towards competitive players (or at least people who play at Tournaments/Events), you'd think they'll try and focus on rarity upgrades and making some commonly-played cards easier to obtain for budget players. [/quote] While I do agree with you on that, and I respect the points that you're making, I don't have any negative opinions about this at all, (although the way I made it sound in my previous post, might prove otherwise.) because I would also rather that spot go to something else. Talking about Undine again, I'd think that the Supers would be hard to come by, heck I only saw [b]1[/b] Super Undine on ebay, and that's being sold for £32 (compared to the easier to come by commons going for about £2). Although I can see your argument about Undine because you're american and you would've at least had access to the supers (at some point whilst the DT was around) unlike the rest of TCG-land who would have no choice to play the commons unless they imported it from America. I maybe diggin' myself into a hole saying that, but I must respect your opinions in saying that the spot might as well go to something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Living in the UK I have never seen nor heard of a super Undine. Astral pack would make it much easier to come by and in Europe Super Undine is basically a myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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