Airride Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 [img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/3/32/MermailAbyssmegalo-ABYR-EN-ScR-1E.png[/img] [quote]You can discard 2 other WATER monsters to the Graveyard; Special Summon this card from your hand. When you do: You can add 1 "Abyss-" Spell/Trap Card from your Deck to your hand. You can Tribute 1 other face-up Attack Position WATER monster you control; this card can make a second attack during each Battle Phase this turn.[/quote] so i herd u leik +ing off a summon of a 2400 I haven't experimented with Mermails yet (As they're going to be significantly more expensive than I'd even like, unfortunatly) but this seems really really freaking good just reading the effects of at lot of the more recent WATER monsters. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 THEY MADE IT A SECRET RARE JUST TO TROLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Welp, these turned out exactly like I expected: Prophecy syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 It's funny, by itself, you can only call it broken because it does 3 different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Thank you very much for this topic. On paper it's a -2 that becomes a -1 if the Summon's successful, enough ATK to tie with Laggia, and high damage potential at the cost of card presence. In practice you discard Atlanteans to wipe the opponent's field or search for Sea Serpents, and use the Tribute effect if you need it to drop Moulinglacia. It gives use to your dead Undines. It can be recruited by Abysslinde to screw up your opponent's Battle Phase, or paired with Gorz, a Level 7 Synchro, or another copy of itself (via Abyss-sphere) to make Big Eye. Negating its effects doesn't stop the Atlanteans from triggering. If I were to hit anything in Mermanteans without outright banning the poppers, it would be this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name='newhat' timestamp='1351919281' post='6060055'] If I were to hit anything in Mermanteans without outright banning the poppers, it would be this. [/quote]Because Dragoons isn't an issue, obviously. Anyway, what is this going for, just so I know to sell it high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1351948428' post='6060180'] Because Dragoons isn't an issue, obviously. Anyway, what is this going for, just so I know to sell it high? [/quote] It just takes advantage of this and moulin's brokeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1351956258' post='6060246'] It just takes advantage of this and moulin's brokeness. [/quote] Yeah, because free searches are ALWAYS good design, right? And don't say it isn't free, in its deck it pretty much is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name='Reborn Black' timestamp='1351958613' post='6060271'] Yeah, because free searches are ALWAYS good design, right? And don't say it isn't free, in its deck it pretty much is. [/quote] Bad design =/= broken card though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1351960656' post='6060279'] Bad design =/= broken card though. [/quote] In this case it does. It's a restrictionless RotA that makes costs free. That's stupid broken, and you can't blame it's targets for it being broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name='Reborn Black' timestamp='1351965302' post='6060319'] In this case it does. It's a restrictionless RotA that makes costs free. That's stupid broken, and you can't blame it's targets for it being broken. [/quote] The only reason the ROTA effect of it is any broken is because of moulinglacia and abyssmegalo,moulinglacia is a +2 on summon that's insane whenever it's playable and abyssmegalo is an OTK factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 @Agro its about $70, if not a little less/more Will probably settle around $60 People are actually complaining about pulling this, for which reason I do not know; I'd love to pull $70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1351966525' post='6060326'] The only reason the ROTA effect of it is any broken is because of moulinglacia and abyssmegalo,moulinglacia is a +2 on summon that's insane whenever it's playable and abyssmegalo is an OTK factory. [/quote] No, that's where you're wrong. A free search, especially when it allows you to circumvent costs, is ALWAYS broken. It doesn't break Abyssmegalo or Moulinglacia and they don't break it. You cannot blame targets for being searchable when they shouldn't be freely searchable in the first place, regardless of their standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name='Reborn Black' timestamp='1351969089' post='6060358']they shouldn't be freely searchable in the first place [/quote] Why not? If they're balanced,nothing will happen when they get their consistency-only boosted with a one time only 141-to-hand spell searcher,right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1351970355' post='6060373'] Why not? If they're balanced,nothing will happen when they get their consistency-only boosted with a one time only 141-to-hand spell searcher,right? [/quote] Consistency via Draw Power is good until it gets out of hand (Out of hand being read 3 Cardcar + 3 Duality; Fine being 2 of Cardcar/Duality + 3 of the other). Consistency via free searching is bad as it basically guarantees you "draw" exactly what you want when you want. You shouldn't be able to have placeholders for any card that it can grab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 It's not that Dragoons isn't ridiculous. Inzektor Hornet is certainly ridiculous, but if you kill each Inzektor as it's Normal Summoned your opponent can't Special Summon more from the hand. If you Solemn your opponent's Undines and MST their Abyss-spheres Megalo will still be around to discard monsters and run the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 The things were going for £40-50 at Sneak yesterday but I don't believe it'll last at that as it's such a niche card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 4, 2012 Report Share Posted November 4, 2012 [quote name='Kabbles' timestamp='1352050344' post='6061022'] The things were going for £40-50 at Sneak yesterday but I don't believe it'll last at that as it's such a niche card. [/quote]$40-50 sounds about right. So, that's like what 25-30 pounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 [quote name='Reborn Black' timestamp='1351970487' post='6060377'] Consistency via Draw Power is good until it gets out of hand (Out of hand being read 3 Cardcar + 3 Duality; Fine being 2 of Cardcar/Duality + 3 of the other). Consistency via free searching is bad as it basically guarantees you "draw" exactly what you want when you want. You shouldn't be able to have placeholders for any card that it can grab. [/quote] Except Card Car and Duality are balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 [quote name='BehindTheMask' timestamp='1352161169' post='6061803'] Except Card Car and Duality are balanced. [/quote] I know that. I wasn't saying they weren't, at all... Just they're too much both @3 together. I'd love to have a gamestate where we could have both at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 This really isn't related to the card itself, which I hate, but its art is extremely ugly in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 Wow, months ago people were shouting out loud how much this card sucked, but now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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