Agro Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Gotcha. [img]http://i.imgur.com/gjSkP.png[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Only 5 Monarchs? o.o And no Jinzo, for that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmepie Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 You need to run Jinzo and/or Royal Decree in this deck. Or your going to get murdered by traps regardless how many backrow destroyers you run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Since when is Jinzo a Frog staple? Is that a thing this format? @TC: -1 Ronin, you only need 2 -1 Book of Moon, it's fairly pointless here +1 Salvage +1 Creature Swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='Reborn Black' timestamp='1352316743' post='6063219'] Since when is Jinzo a Frog staple? Is that a thing this format? @TC: -1 Ronin, you only need 2 -1 Book of Moon, it's fairly pointless here +1 Salvage +1 Creature Swap [/quote]Should I run Swaps over Exchange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 -1 Typhoon +1 Avarice Derp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 I see Daigusto Phoenix but no Raizas. You could have at least 1 in the Deck for double attacking. Maybe -1 Caius? Both are equally disrupting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Jinzo's not a necessity by any means, but running 1, especially with Illusorysnatcher, can disrupt an insane amount of plays. It's almost too good not to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 No, Exchange is superior to swap, in general. The fact that you get a choice of what you use with Exchange is what makes it better. Swap's really just a tech, but it's one that gets a lot of mileage and wins games. Avarice and Jinxo are techs as well, so take your pick. You should also make room for a single Dark Mist in your extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 I'd go with a Raiza and Mobius over 2 Zaborg, I don't feel the potential rank 5s to be worth the substandard effect. But if you want to keep the Zaborgs, then probably try to find room for a BLS; you've definitely got enough targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Wow, I just noticed the Extra Deck: -1 Pleiades: with other choices available, I doubt you will ever Summon 2 in the same duel. -1 Gaia Dragoon: read above. -1 Daigusto Phoenix: you should be Summoning this when Raiza is on field to go for game; 1 should be enough. +1 Dark Mist (mentioned by Reborn Black) +2 Synchros for Summoning with Veiler? You never know when you will need them. Probably a Black Rose and a generic Level 6 (Gaia, Sirius, Gravity Warrior). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 [quote name='Reborn Black' timestamp='1352318370' post='6063239'] Avarice and Jinxo are techs as well, so take your pick. [/quote]Does a 3rd Snatcher work as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmepie Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 [quote name='Reborn Black' timestamp='1352316743' post='6063219'] Since when is Jinzo a Frog staple? Is that a thing this format? [/quote] It's not but I have seen plenty of them using it. When you consider the lack of spells, the high atk and illusory it makes sense for it to become a staple though. [quote name='Frex' timestamp='1352320359' post='6063271'] +2 Synchros for Summoning with Veiler? You never know when you will need them. Probably a Black Rose and a generic Level 6 (Gaia, Sirius, Gravity Warrior). [/quote] I'd say Iron Chain and Sirius/Gaia. Gravity warrior isn't that great especially if your opponent is unlikely to have many cards face-down on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Question- If I am running something to hate on S/T, why am I running Jinzo? It doesn't serve much purpose beyond a win moar GG, especially when Möbius does the same job more often than not, and won't dead draw even remotely as much as Jinzo because it doubles as Swap Frog fodder. Again, unless this is a format thing, because I am admittedly not that up to date on how things run. Jinzo doesn't really have a point unless a format is dominated by traps, and is most certainly not a staple in Frog variants. Snatcher doesn't change that. @Agro: 3 Snatcher seems Cloggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmepie Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 [quote name='Reborn Black' timestamp='1352363926' post='6063711'] Question- If I am running something to hate on S/T, why am I running Jinzo? It doesn't serve much purpose beyond a win moar GG, especially when Möbius does the same job more often than not, and won't dead draw even remotely as much as Jinzo because it doubles as Swap Frog fodder. Again, unless this is a format thing, because I am admittedly not that up to date on how things run. Jinzo doesn't really have a point unless a format is dominated by traps, and is most certainly not a staple in Frog variants. Snatcher doesn't change that. [/quote] The point is your opponent is going to have traps. And will counter your summons as often as they can, hence Jinzo. It isn't a necessity but it is really useful card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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