Alpakha Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120907032411/yugioh/images/5/54/VoidTrapHole-REDU-EN-SR-1E.png[/img] Gungnir still alive, ironic because it looks like he's the first to fall in the picture. Anyway, discuss. Would this make a nice unlimited substitute for bottomless, or is it just pack filler. Discuss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 It's a card that would be better if priority were still around (thank God it isn't); same with Pulling the Rug. In most cases, you're better off running Bottomless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 You cant rug a monster that's calling priority on it's ignition effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Doesn't hit most things that you'd want to negate, like Zenmaines. This is for negating the Summons of monsters like Tiras that can't be destroyed, or that activate effects on their Summon like Abyssmegalo. Garunix and The Shining still activate, so in spite of Effect Summons, most of the time Black Horn of Heaven is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1356184061' post='6099021'] You cant rug a monster that's calling priority on it's ignition effect. [/quote] Since I don't feel like getting into an argument, I'll just say "fine". But Pulling the Rug states an effect that activates when a monster is Normal Summoned, hence any Trigger effects like the Monarchs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 What do Trigger effects have to do with the old priority rule? Priority was basically an upperhand to Ignition, iirc. OT: On paper, it sounds like you'll wait for your opponent's eventual boss and deal with it. On practice, it is a Bottomless with less targets that doesn't banish and only affects 1 of the Summoned monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1356196878' post='6099125'] Since I don't feel like getting into an argument, I'll just say "fine". But Pulling the Rug states an effect that activates when a monster is Normal Summoned, hence any Trigger effects like the Monarchs. [/quote] Precisely. And not ignition effects with Priority because they're not activated as a result the summon, they're simply just responses to the summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Would be better with more "On summon" Type of cards. As-Is, not very useful right now. If it banished, it would be slightly better, at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 It's not really a "tech" if it's completely outclassed in every way by so many no cards and can legitimately lower the consistency of the deck it's played in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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