Toffee. Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Dark on the left, Bright on the right: [center][img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121221180040/yugioh/images/c/c4/DarkWingedDragonCollapserpent-JF13-JP-OP.jpg[/img][img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121221154837/yugioh/images/d/d6/WhiteLightDragonWyburster-JF13-JP-OP.jpg[/img] [quote][center][b]Dark's effect: 1800/1700[/b] Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by banishing 1 LIGHT monster from your Graveyard, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. You can only Special Summon 1 "Dark-Winged Dragon Collapserpent" per turn. If this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard: You can add 1 "Bright-White Dragon Wyburster" from your Deck to your hand.[/center][/quote] [quote][center][b]Bright's effect: 1700/1800[/b] Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by banishing 1 DARK monster from your Graveyard, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. You can only Special Summon 1 "Bright-White Dragon Wyburster" per turn. If this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard: You can add 1 "Dark-Winged Dragon Collapserpent" from your Deck to your hand.[/center][/quote][/center] YEP. LIGHTPULSAR/DARKFLARE AGAIN. Although, these seem pretty amusing, since they are just smaller versions of the former. Anyway, despite being obscure Gadgets, its just more Chaos-Dragon shenanigans. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 They're sorta broken imo,they pretty much give you 2 free lv 4s per turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1356194693' post='6099104'] They're sorta broken imo,they pretty much give you 2 free lv 4s per turn [/quote] How so? Using them as Xyz Materials doesn't let you search Banishing them for Darkness Metal doesn't let you search etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Level 4 Dragons of Chaos that special summon themselves? WHY KONAMI?! Why you only release these now after I've finished writing when they would have been perfect for Murtagh, who I struggled so badly to make a Rank 4 with in his Chaos Dragons deck? Why now damn you!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1356195621' post='6099108'] How so? Using them as Xyz Materials doesn't let you search Banishing them for Darkness Metal doesn't let you search etc [/quote] You can synchro with them and they'd activate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1356196050' post='6099113'] You can synchro with them and they'd activate.[/quote] Neither of them are Tuners. Furthermore, you can only Summon 1 copy of them per turn. But aside from that, yes, Synchro Materials would set them off. .... Hilariously enough, these just beg to be thrown into a Gallis deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 They're Nomis, though. I'm not sure how impressive they'd actually be as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1356198004' post='6099145'] I'm not sure how impressive they'd actually be as a result.[/quote] They just need fuel, and they are good to go, really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I mean my issue with them is they're Level 4 Nomis. They have no revival shenanigans in any way, and they're Level 4, so because of their Summoning Conditions, they can be dead cards in the hand because you can't Normal Summon them. I'm just not really sure what they offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Since when did dragon decks normal summon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I feel like once you pull off the first one, they'll always be live because there's always going to be targets for them. I've wanted them to make a LIGHT/DARK Aqua Spirit-esque monster for years now, and though these are a bit more restrictive than the others, they're still good.I feel like once you pull off the first one, they'll always be live because there's always going to be targets for them. I've wanted them to make a LIGHT/DARK Aqua Spirit-esque monster for years now, and though these are a bit more restrictive than the others, they're still good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1356212188' post='6099365'] I mean my issue with them is they're Level 4 Nomis. They have no revival shenanigans in any way, and they're Level 4, so because of their Summoning Conditions, they can be dead cards in the hand because you can't Normal Summon them. [/quote] They dont look like they'd be dead often with how each dragon can fuel the next one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I keep saying Dragunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 > Summon both > Summon Dread dragon or something? > Trident Dragion OR >Make Dragion while these are on field to negate the -'s with his effects for teh lolz ...Meh, I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 > People saying that it's hard to get LIGHT and DARKs in the Graveyard. > People thinking that they'll be Xyz support > People worrying about them not being summonable from places other than the hand when they'll be like that when banished anyway > People thinking that only being able to summon 2 per turn is a good balancing factor. You people don't see the power these cards hold, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Guys, dragons are Spam-Spam-A-Go-Go. Didn't the Chaos Dragons from last format teach you anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 [quote name='Dem The Magic Dragon' timestamp='1356248586' post='6099828'] Guys, dragons are Spam-Spam-A-Go-Go. Didn't the Chaos Dragons from last format teach you anything? [/quote] They had Future Fusion We lost that allusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1356250926' post='6099837'] They had Future Fusion We lost that allusion. [/quote] They spam everything from the hand though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1356250926' post='6099837'] They had Future Fusion We lost that allusion. [/quote]> Implying that the problem with Chaos Dragons was a single card You obviously haven't played against my Dragon Drive. That deck could wreck everything with these cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1356251451' post='6099841'] > Implying that the problem with Chaos Dragons was a single card You obviously haven't played against my Dragon Drive. That deck could wreck everything with these cards. [/quote] If DN gets these first, I wanna see a build. OR If DMG gets them first, I'll drag you onto that game, and let you abuse them. I'm now interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1356251678' post='6099842'] If DN gets these first, I wanna see a build. OR If DMG gets them first, I'll drag you onto that game, and let you abuse them. I'm now interested. [/quote]Basically. With all the LIGHTs and DARKs in the deck, you easily have the stuff in the Grave needed. Then you can just summon one of these, Synch with it. Bring out another, do the same. Then do it on the next turn (you can also use these Dragons as tribute material for all the big Dragons) It does a lot. What I want to see, actually, is if these Dragons can work in Fabled. With all the easily-summoned Tuners, you could be able to get off a lot of Synchro Summons much easier with these boys. Seeing as Tengu was a pretty good card in the Deck, perhaps these can work just as well if not better. It really all depends on if they clog the hand too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 That is currently my venture, and has been since the site even came back from its crash. Problem is that I god handed in the first test, and the next three tests were just s*** hands overall, mostly due to Krus and Doppel being b****es, and Cerburrel refusing to show up. The dragons themselves have yet to be an issue, but I still think I might lower them to 2-2 instead of 3-3, if only to keep them from the potential clogging of my hand. The big selling point, for me, is that they don't hinder Ragin unless you draw multiples. Activate them first, draw 2, search the other one. Of course, this is just for Fableds. They're a slightly less generic but more copies and chaos supporting Tengu, so of course they're full of potential elsewhere as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Once they get on DN, I plan on testing with them as well. Unless they were added overnight and I just don't realize it yet, BUT STILL. Anyway, I want to see if these could let a potential Plant.dek live again. I know without Glow-Up Bulb the deck is a lot weaker then it used to be, but I'm hoping the potential for, well, a dead deck to have a bit of life breathed into it. So I figure with Lonefire, Spore, these guys, and various over cards, something can be put together that hopefully wouldn't suck. That banish effect to summon might be some trouble in it though. I hope not. >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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