Blake Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [center][img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121005001223/yugioh/images/9/90/MonsterReborn-LCYW-EN-UR-1E.jpg[/img][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Perfectly fair @1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Only real problem I have is that it can take cards from the opponent's grave. Otherwise I'd say it's healthy for the game to have a card like this @1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 We've had too many damn topics on this card... I can understand why this could be banned. It literally steals games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Requesting ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 All that Monster Reborn does is bring back a monster from the graveyard There's honestly nothing majorly bad about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 It's not a healthy card, but it's nonetheless not as overpowered as what it can fetch, so - ehh, I suppose they'd never hit it anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1356895213' post='6106252'] We've had too many damn topics on this card... [/quote] Yeah, we've had as many topics on this card as we had TGU, probably even more. OT: Yeah, It's definately banworthy, and I wouldn't be surprised the next time it goes back to @0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Does no one realise that Reborn is only a problem card if what it can get back is too good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='MoogSourceVermona' timestamp='1356895323' post='6106255'] All that Monster Reborn does is bring back a monster from the graveyard There's honestly nothing majorly bad about it [/quote] Scenario #1 where reborn is unfair: 1. Summon Hyperion. 2. Opponent Warnings Hyperion 3. Lol, reborn 4. Win, unfairly #2: 1. Your big boss monster is in the graveyard, but you have a solid advantage 2. Lol, reborn 3. You lose Reborn is only as good as what it can target, but its targets are pretty damn good. And no, they're not the problem, reborn is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1356895711' post='6106261'] Scenario #1 where reborn is unfair: 1. Summon Hyperion. 2. Opponent Warnings Hyperion 3. Lol, reborn 4. Win, unfairly #2: 1. Your big boss monster is in the graveyard, but you have a solid advantage 2. Lol, reborn 3. You lose Reborn is only as good as what it can target, but its targets are pretty damn good. And no, they're not the problem, reborn is. [/quote] Just gonna ask this one question: How can Reborn ever be the problem if its targets are what make it a problem, by that logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='~British Soul~' timestamp='1356895658' post='6106259'] Yeah, we've had as many topics on this card as we had TGU, probably even more. [/quote] This card has been around much much longer than TGU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeguBrit Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Monster Reborn: For all your trolling needs. Seriously, this card needs to be changed so that it is only your graveyard, and even then it's too powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1356895711' post='6106261'] Reborn is only as good as what it can target, but its targets are pretty damn good. And no, they're not the problem, reborn is. [/quote] Then justify it, properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1356895711' post='6106261'] Reborn is only as good as what it can target, but its targets are pretty damn good. And no, they're not the problem, reborn is. [/quote] oh I didn't know bls wasn't a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 People act like EVERY time someone draws Monster Reborn it leads to f***ing game winning. It doesn't. Reborn does NOT lead to winning the duel as often as people say it does. If someone wins from drawing Reborn, they either had the advantage the entire time, the opponent made a stupid move, or they are smart enough to use it well. Do idiots sometime win from drawing Reborn? Of course, but it's no different then winning with Lightsworns, in fact winning with Reborn tends to happen LESS then winning with Lightsworns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1356895711' post='6106261'] Scenario #1 where reborn is unfair: 1. Summon Hyperion. 2. Opponent Warnings Hyperion 3. Lol, reborn 4. Win, unfairly #2: 1. Your big boss monster is in the graveyard, but you have a solid advantage 2. Lol, reborn 3. You lose Reborn is only as good as what it can target, but its targets are pretty damn good. And no, they're not the problem, reborn is. [/quote] Reborn doesn't always have to be like that And plus how can you blame Reborn on that All it did was bring the card back from the graveyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Ban Reborn and print this: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Water_of_Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='Dem Gem Carbuncle' timestamp='1356895851' post='6106269'] oh I didn't know bls wasn't a problem [/quote] BLS shouldn't even exist. [quote name='Borderline Unplayable' timestamp='1356895850' post='6106268'] Then justify it, properly. [/quote] You've said so yourself, YGO is a game of powerful bosses. It's not their fault for being good, that's just power creep. It's reborn's fault for bringing them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1356896430' post='6106285'] BLS shouldn't even exist. [/quote] So it's a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='Dem Gem Carbuncle' timestamp='1356896400' post='6106284'] Ban Reborn and print this: [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Water_of_Life"]http://yugioh.wikia....i/Water_of_Life[/url] [/quote] I can agree that Water of Life is better to use than Monster Reborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='Dem Gem Carbuncle' timestamp='1356896400' post='6106284'] Ban Reborn and print this: [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Water_of_Life"]http://yugioh.wikia....i/Water_of_Life[/url] [/quote] Beat you to it => Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='Howling Black' timestamp='1356896548' post='6106292'] Beat you to it => [/quote] No idea what you mean by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='Dem Gem Carbuncle' timestamp='1356896507' post='6106288'] So it's a problem. [/quote] Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 [quote name='Howling Black' timestamp='1356895817' post='6106264'] Just gonna ask this one question: How can Reborn ever be the problem if its targets are what make it a problem, by that logic? [/quote] I'm thinking that the problem is that it abuses the Graveyard mechanic and its inability to be avoided without deck dedication. Lategame, Reborn can and usually will lead to a single-handed win. This is balanced out by the fact that anyone can run it, but then it degrades into pure luck... which is what YGO! is all about, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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