Sora1499 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 @Zazu You're saying that searchers of broken cards shouldn't exist. Not only is that inherently incorrect, but this card is much slower than most other standard searchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1357068148' post='6108250'] @Zazu You're saying that searchers of broken cards shouldn't exist. Not only is that inherently incorrect, but this card is much slower than most other standard searchers. [/quote]sorry sorry, what? how the freaking f*** is this slower than any other searcher? It's faster than Sangan, it's faster than Turtle, it's not faster than Spells I suppose, though because it can be destroyed anywhere, activating something that destroys it from your hand. Also, aix, I searched Yaksha, and from what I can see, you got your card mixed up, cause it doesn't destroy "outside of the field" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Yeah it does. It can destroy in your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='☯AixDivadis☯' timestamp='1357068805' post='6108267'] Yeah it does. It can destroy in your hand. [/quote]okay, it's kinda getting off topic here, but this is what I read on the wikia: You can target 1 Spell/Trap Card your opponent controls; return that target to the hand. Doesn't even say destroy, so I dn't know what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='Zaziuma' timestamp='1357068606' post='6108263'] sorry sorry, what? how the freaking f*** is this slower than any other searcher? It's faster than Sangan, it's faster than Turtle [/quote] You're using bad examples. Sangan is busted because it searches damn near everything. This is the exact same speed as turtle. Compare this to cards like Stratos, genex undine, gem armadillo, machina gearframe, and the earth agent. All you have to do is summon them and you get the search. You get exactly what you need instantly. This card has to be set, and then your opponent has to attack it, and THEN you get the search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1357069326' post='6108281'] You're using bad examples. Sangan is busted because it searches damn near everything. This is the exact same speed as turtle. Compare this to cards like Stratos, genex undine, gem armadillo, machina gearframe, and the earth agent. All you have to do is summon them and you get the search. You get exactly what you need instantly. This card has to be set, and then your opponent has to attack it, and THEN you get the search. [/quote]which is totaly not what it has to do at all, that's Turtle silly goose, you are getting your cards mixed up. It could also be destroyed by a card effect, same as Sangan, but it can also be destroyed in hand (or anywhere else I guess, I think there's a few that does it in grave for some reason), so it is faster, but I was talking about the same kind as Zombie, being destroyed and such, summoning is faster though those typicly have costs, not machina thoug, but he only searches like 3 cards or what ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iam Isthename Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Are you guys fighting or something?...Just respect each others' point of views and we will go good. This is [s]Sparta![/s] not a place for quarrels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='iamwhoiam' timestamp='1357073453' post='6108350'] Are you guys fighting or something?...Just respect each others' point of views and we will go good. This is [s]Sparta![/s] not a place for quarrels... [/quote] Nah, it's just debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iam Isthename Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1357073580' post='6108353'] Nah, it's just debate. [/quote]Oh, debates like this always happens? o.0 ..........Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 [quote name='I am not I am Who I am!' timestamp='1357073711' post='6108354'] Oh, debates like this always happens? o.0 ..........Cool! [/quote] They'd happen more often if RC was more active. ;~; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 I guess you could call it a debate haha, really it's just mindless internetting, we can't just have our own opinions without anyone barging in and being all like, nope I disagree. I mean, it's not his card, he can't change it after all. Anyways, I don't think there's anything more I really have to say about this card, but I still stand by the fact that it should be restricted a little bit. EDIT: Actually we should be happy that we're having a debate, it means that we are intelligent creatures, us humans, if you are one Archlord Sora, if that's your real name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 @Zazu Dat double post. ^-^ I suppose you could add the negating effects clause, that would elimate all notions of it being busted, but then pyramid turtle would push this card out of the way, and that's not what I want for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 It could go either way to be honest. -It's true that it's not currently as good, so that restriction is meaningless, and even more for a custom card. -Though, it's also true that it's always wise to prepare for future cards' creations, that might end up breaking a card some day. So for the sake of design, yeah. Though for this particular case, we've had a card with better stats and a very similar effect almost since the beginning of time, and it's done decently. This card doesn't have much use for Extra Deck shenagigans as much as Pyramid Turtle does, but it can trigger from Torrential and Dark Hole. It's really about taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦~Thug-Life~♦ Posted January 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I appreciate the debate guys,and the crucial criticism on the card. New card added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 The level 1 one looks like crap. Zombies already have a problem with maintaining hand advantage. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦~Thug-Life~♦ Posted January 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Don't Zombies like to swarm though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 From your Graveyard would be better. It'd still be balanced by the fact that it is Level 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♦~Thug-Life~♦ Posted January 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I was thinking that to. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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